intellectually and use numbers that aren t true and stick with facts that aren t facts. i think that you know, certainly there are concerns on the part of people who work for him about his capacity in that sense. i ve never heard any solid reporting that there are members of the cabinet who are willing to go that far. okay, but john, this whole discussion about a 25th amendment, how much does this fan the narrative of deep state plot to take down the president? a little, but the fact of the matter is that i think we should do one thing and understand when mccabe and rosenstein were talking about this, this is appropriate. the lawyers particularly in the case of assistant attorney general in a moment of what is seen by. people as crisis or possible crisis, have a responsibility to discuss options. it is we don t know the how far it went. we don t know a lot of details. but that discussion of options
john, something you wrote, congress should apply is the same standards established by trump to trump. can you expand on that? sure. several years ago when barack obama was president, he used an executive order to extend a number of protections to immigrants. and particularly with concern for the dreamers. whether he did that in 2014, he did it because he was having trouble with congress. congress wasn t moving on an issue. and donald trump s reaction to that was to say that republicans must stop him. that they must act to prevent him from doing this and then in an interview with fox news, he suggested that the president s actions remember president obama s actions, on a relatively popular and i think many people wohl agree necessary initiative to stabilize concerns as regards deportations was certainly
i will tell you, i m very disappointed at certain people particularly one for not having pushed this faster. are you referring to speaker ryan, sir? who? speaker ryan? let s not talk about it. what difference does it make but they should have pushed it faster, they should have pushed it harder and they didn t. president trump there with our own white house correspondent kelly o donnell. joining me now is john nickles is, national affairs correspondent at the nation, gabby orr from politico and peter baker from the new york times and political analyst. i m going to start with you, peter, according to the brennan center for justice, presidents have declared 5 states of emergency going back to, let s see, 1976, 31 of which are still active today.