Good morning, welcome back to squawk box right here on cnbc this morning. Im Andrew Ross Sorkin along with joe kernen and kelly evans. Becky is off today lets show you where futures stand at this hour maybe 12, 15 hours after President Trump returning to the white house. The dow looks like it would open down marginally about 63 points off, nasdaq off about 83 s p 500 off about 15 points. Lets also show you treasury yields as we speak, well show you the ten year yield right now, you are looking at 0. 763. Meanwhile ill pass it over to kelly. Thanks for joining us this morning. And youve got the news on President Trump. And before we get to that, joe, we were just joking about, you know, you and me we could banter and we were in studio and andrew wasnt and now, you know, were all no, you are in studio still im still here. Ive been here since april and i like it here there is no delay. Is that are you wearing orange or that red i think that were in sync sort of yeah, it was an orangey red
Lets bring in our guests today, arguing that stocks might not be so close to new highs for very long mike wilson, Morgan Stanley, back with us good to see you. Glad to be back. 10 correction is the most likely outcome why is that . Its a continuation from the call we made in september where we got a 10 correction. We walrallied back all this comes back to our framework. We look at the valuation its pretty full volatility has picked up because of the events they know are out there, whether its the virus, the second wave, or the election the premium we believe is a bit understated from where it should be thats all were saying. Its full here these risks are not going away for the next 30 days theyll be with us so, look, the range we put out in august, 3,100 to 3,550 holds. Were still bullish on the vshaped recovery, the call we made a while ago we think its a new bull market. But its risk reward and the risk reward for the upper end of the rage is not that good. If the facts change, could
Joe, its these mnuchin headlines getting something done in terms of stimulus by the election, he says, is tough. That caused a bit more of a selloff in stocks and it underscores why the nasdaq continues to have a bit under it yes, it does clearly and youre also seeing a little bit of a fallback in yield, scott. The tenyear is pushing back towards 70 basis points, somewhat troubling, i would think the market needs a little bit of some of the Forward Momentum that its been carrying in the last week or so to really cool off a little. I think we were getting a little too vertical in the way we were appreciating so the negative news that youre getting on the stimulus aligns with maybe a much needed little bit of pause in that rate of appreciation im not overly concerned by it. Yeah, rates are falling you see it there 71 basis points is where we are on the tenyear, an issue to deal with, tiffany, or perhaps the message in the fall. Everything is coming down on the mnuchin comments but its mo
Higher density battery, greener, but the technological breakthrough towards that are still speculative so the market reacted negatively to that news. Right the bull case is that were seeing built today say that if you were to be able to cut the cost by 56 in three years, it would have enormous ramifications on volume, implications for margins and ostensibly positive for the stock. Cramer said it best this morning, if you were a believer going into the event, you remain a believer and if not, maybe youre not. Fair enough its absolutely true that the Battery Technologies worldwide tesla and everybody elses will continue to get cheaper and better thats a given thats just the all laws that support Technological Breakthroughs support that theory so thats already baked into the price. You know, all the disruptive capacity of the technology is already baked into the price theres Everything Else is just sexy brand, elon cult personality who of course deserves all the credit in the world he adm
I think what weve got is a range. I dont think its anything really terrific, and i dont think its anything bad. One of my favorite technicians, larry williams, who was the dean when i was in diapers, he was doing great stuff, weve been going back and forth about the notion, look, until we get closer to action, hes usually an october 20th buy. I mention because neither one of us thinks theres anything catastrophic ahead but neither one of us is excited if you are excited, if you think we will return to the days when stocks only go up, you will be disappointed, scott. I just think what were seeing with the teslas is emblematic if you get too excited. One of the central questions whether tech has gone down enough relative to how much it ran up i bring that up, you look at the faangs, month to date microsoft down amazon, facebook down 11, 12 and 13 1 2 here is what mike wilson told us from Morgan Stanley thinking tech could have a ways to go before its done all right, well, we dont have th