of this testimony and what should the judiciary committee be thinking about possible next steps here, if any? lawrence, andrew, good evening. it was a victory for separation of powers that the congressional subpoena power still means something. i wish it would have meant something, you know, two years ago when we asked mr. mcgahn to come in, but we did ultimately prevail. more importantly, it showed just how close we came to a true constitutional crisis in our country, and that this is not a 500-year flood type of situation, that this could happen again under a another, more competent corrupt president. what we could do? well, adam schiff has the protecting our democracy act which would make a lot of reforms around presidential abuses. i also believe that president biden can instruct his attorney general to lift the department of justice policy that says no president can be indicted so no president can act as if they have this type of impunity. but we are in very fragile times
without the insurrection having happened, lawrence, i think we would be having a different conversation. but it s so clear post january 6th and all the things that have followed we re in precarious place. good to see we have a commander in chief in president biden that understands that our democracy matters and we have to project that to the world and live it every day. and we are in a place that s so precarious, that even president barack obama says worry, it is time to worry about this. and i make that point, not because he s not perceptive about all these things, but worry is the last note that barack obama likes to strike. it s just not where he wants to go. he s always telling us to look ahead, look for something positive coming. so it s at point where he s saying we really have to worry about the state of democracy in america. that is a new point.
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vladimir putin and they got it completely and cheered him, that finally there will be strength brought to confront vladimir putin. well, i think what you putin i think what you saw there was almost a release. last four years we ve seen a republican president in donald trump, and republican party frankly that was taking positions on russia and other issues that they had never taken before. antidemocratic positions. if you believe in american democracy, you don t take the side of vladimir putin, that s not what you do, historically not been the case. so donald trump changed that dynamic. what i think you saw there was an acknowledgment of the shift and fact that america is back, and certainly joe biden is doing this in a very complicated moment for america and our democracy, and had this happened
manchin s support. is it possible we might change a few things here and there? we re going to do it. we ve had discussions with senator manchin and they re continuing. wall street journal reports mr. manchin promised to share a list of provisions that he would find acceptable, said senator dick durbin. the pledge came after democrats complained that mr. manchin had declined to specify what changes he wanted. democrats also played down the prospects for an alternative proposal floated by mr. manchin saying it couldn t act as a replacement for the broader package. yesterday president biden ended his negotiation with west virginia s republican senator on an infrastructure bill. senator capito was negotiating theoretically on behalf of the republican side of the senate in the discussions. the president has opened new negotiations with a group of bipartisan senators who have been working together already to try to find a compromise infrastructure bill.