lloyd. he orchestrated the murder. two accomplices have also been charged. is stephen fleming telling the truth this time? accused boston mob boss. he was once an associate of bulgers. he said he saw bulger kill people. he admitted under defense he lied before his own murder trial and before he turned government witness. now he says he is telling the truth this time about what he says he saw bulger do. a man accused of threatening to kill cnn anchor nonsay grace and jane velez-mitchell may have been in the process of carrying out the threats. david lee simpson was angry over coverage of the jodi arias trial. police found several guns, ammunition, handcuffs, by knock lars and a knife and a police
murder trial before the zimmerman case was the jodi arias trial. she was convicted of murdering her ex-boyfriend. she could face the death penalty when the sentencing phase begins in september. marry lu was one of the jurors that found her guilty, she joins me now. and back with us is attorney alan dershowitz. mary, you ve been where these jurors have been in the zimmerman trial. you ve been in the pressure environment of a high-profile case. what is it like in that room deliberating when perhaps you don t all agree to start with with what the verdict should be? it s intent. there is a lot of give and take. there is a lot of not argument per se everyone firmly believes what they believe when they get in there and it s a collaborative process to figure out what the case ends up as. eventually, you agreed she was guilty of murder but couldn t reach a unanimous verdict whether she should have the death penalty.
count one, first-degree murder, guilty. the most explosive watched murder trial before the zimmerman case was the jodi arias trial. she was convicted of murdering her ex-boyfriend. she could face the death penalty when the sentencing phase begins in september. marry lu was one of the jurors that found her guilty, she joins me now. and back with us is attorney alan dershowitz. mary, you ve been where these jurors have been in the zimmerman trial. you ve been in the pressure environment of a high-profile case. what is it like in that room deliberating when perhaps you don t all agree to start with with what the verdict should be? it s intent. there is a lot of give and take. there is a lot of not argument per se everyone firmly believes what they believe when they get in there and it s a collaborative process to figure out what the case ends up as.
lot of scrutiny and this trial watched by millions of people. i think they want to explain how they reached their verdict and i expect someone will. beth, i want to make it clear why the jury might not want to come forward publicly because there have been several angry tweets kind of attacking them, not in a good way. yeah. social media is playing a role now that is actually very troubling in these trials. and we saw threats against witnesses in the jodi arias, now i do mean the arias trial and it is problematic. are they empty threats? yeah, maybe. but they are frightening. i do agree with page, though. jurors do eventually come out, at least one. and i think that they ll at least one will come out to say, look, we followed the law. i m sorry, i do feel maybe i wanted to find them guilty of something. but when you follow the law, which is what we believe we did, we just couldn t convict. beth karas, page pate, thank
but as far as i know, she hasn t ruled yet. i do think people know who these jurors are. i covered trials for 20 years across the country and usually the people in the media know at least some of the jurors and they ll speak out eventually. but in this case, it s a court order. we re not allowed to contact these jurors. what would happen, page, if a juror did? contempt of court. the judge can bring you into court and say, look, i told you not to do this. i can fine you or even send you to jail. beth, you mentioned the jodi arias trial we heard from jurors in that case despite their wish to remain anonymous. i m sorry, i meant casey anthony. those jurors have spoken out. there was no order there. and a number of them have spoken out and everybody knows who they are. the media there worked for months. it was a five-month trial. i meant casey anthony. i apologize.