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and there is no denying his ability to snow a large percentage of the american public, he is really not good doing that when he is in a sort of legal jam. a really good example of that is that e. jean carroll case where some of the very worse evidence came from donald trump s own mouth during the under oath deposition where he had to answer questions and did so quite poorly. and sean hannity, you know, in the clips you played, is clearly trying to lead him to the right thing to say that donald trump thinks he knows better. and, you know, that s going to get him in trouble and it series of cases that he is facing when it is not gonna be a question about money, which is what he s used to for
but that was not at all clear to that silenced audience who already had declared themselves to all be trump supporters. leading off our discussion tonight is charles blow, columnist for the new york times, and msnbc political analyst. also with us andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel, and former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york. and andrew, let s get through the legal points on this interview first of which there are basically zero because sean hannity asked the right question, donald trump ran away from it like it was a house on fire there. let me get your reaction to that. and then, also, that really one we did the last time sean hannity tried to help donald trump on the documents question. so, donald trump, while he really is a master communicator from a political perspective
settled. it will be settled. i know it sounds like he is talking about members of congress. he is talking about russia and ukraine. yes, the thing there is that we have to remember that mr. trump in his entire political career, basically since 2016, has been a kind of client of mr. putin. so, the idea that he could get putin do something precarious, you know, putin can get him to do things, but the idea that you can get to do putin do something is curious. the russians, if you follow them and their media, they are very much hoping that trump wins this war, wins this election. that is their hail mary. they are hoping that trump or desantis, but mostly trump wins this war. and when trump talks like that, when he makes this unreality, he basically, and this is what americans should understand, he is making the war last longer. you know, he doesn t pick the position that ukraine should win and we should help them. you are giving the russians
party opponent, so the rules of evidence allowed that, even if donald trump says i am not going to testify. of course, it is a criminal defendant, everyone needs to understand he is absolutely no obligation at all to testify, and the jury would be told that it cannot be used against him in a criminal case. that is the reason it can come into evidence. charles blow, i want to read a passage that you wrote, that we saw i think on full display tonight in iowa. you said trump allows his supporters to feel and express their full range of motion. he entertains them. he channels that rage. he reflects their oppressive urges. he s an oracle of their self perceived victimhood and their model of a warning against a government and culture that they feel are turning on them. charles, it certainly is not anything in the substance of what he is saying about governing in that united states that gets those people excited in iowa tonight? absolutely not.