he really tried to help her in his own naive way saying don t talk to your attorney. i will teach you a secret way to communicate with the family and the police. the defense says that he sexually abused her and suggested that he was the father. he is not the father. he did say he and his fiancee spent that entire 31 dwais looking for case. he called her and she would say imnea town about an hour away and he would say i m going drive there. and she told to many lies that he was just trying to be a brother and try to find his niece. and they were very close and very friendly. judge jeanine: you know, when we look at this family, i mean the impact on all of them, i mean even the brother lee has aged tremendously. but finally, is there any way at this point to be able to if someone wanted to step up and take a paternity test to even decide if that person is the father? i don t believe there is
what do we know about it him? and the fact that he died in a car accident. this is another one of casey s lies. he is not the father of caylee. judge jeanine: at this point, john, there was talk that casey ended up telling her friend who was the father. she told kia it was a tall quiet guy. they were having sex, the condom broke, she had had three positive pregnancy tests and she was pregnant but she never named the guy and later on told kia marie that he died in a car crash. there is a lot of candidates for who that father might be. judge jeanine: what i find amazing alexis is at least in terms of child support that caylee was almost three years old when she died. there was no real effort by the parents to try to figure out who the father was. none whatsoever. they took their daughter who was a pathological liar at her
she lied to him and he thought i will take this leap of faith maybe it can work, i m not a doctor. i will go with what my girlfriend is telling me but he is not. she lied to him for two years. he actually believed that he was the father of little caylee. when found outages h out he was devastated. no one knows who the dad is. she lied about a boyfriend and said he died in a car accident. the prosecution brought up the fact that it was thought that george or wer lee were the dad. no one knows who her father is. that is crazy. who did cindy think was the father? she originally thought it was jesse grund was fiancee but it wasn t. she then say there s was another boyfriend and even a third one that casey mentioned that died in a car accident. zen, nobody could find anybody who had been in this car accident. she really doesn t know. judge jeanine: casey told her parents, alexis that a jesse ortiz was caylee s real father.
not caylee s father drks you not? yes. and subsequent to that, who did you think caylee s father was? she gave me a name of eric baker. is eric baker on caylee s birth certificate? no, no father is listed on caylee s birth certificate. judge jeanine: welcome back to justice . both george and lee was asked to take paternity tests to see if they were the father of caylee. joining us senior reporter for radar online. alexis, starting with you, could casey s former fiancee jesse grund be caylee s father?
word. never tried to find out who it was. nobody ever want the to spend father s day. she lied about jesse being the father. maybe they just hoped it was. she didn t tell the truth with where she worked or who her friends were. they had the little girl that they loved and the dad wasn t there. casey could go on telling her lies but as long as they have caylee there, they don t need a dad they have their grand daughter. judge jeanine: the back yard and the playhouse and little bernlg and it was clear to them that they loved this grand daughter and to them it really didn t matter who the father was, agreed? you are absolutely right. they didn t need to know. judge jeanine: what was her relationship with her brother lee, alexis? they were very close. he came to visit her multiple times while she was in jail.