that the west side of chicago should be a hive of commercial activity. why should? guest: well, should because then people would have jobs other than being goat peddlers. and can because once it was. before the highly segregated history banned it to the west side, there were lots of factories, lots of jobs. and now because of regulations of various kinds, it s not. it s, it s a free it s a free fire zone. not all of it. there are some streets where people by sheer act of will kept the street in good condition and they re not going to allow any of anyone to deal drugs. but then for the most part it s very sad. host: you say regulations. give an example of some of those. guest: well, to start a business in chicago and most places in the united states, worse in brazil or egypt, it takes months. it s hard to do. you ve got to get permits, you ve got to get a business license to braid hair, famous case, notoriouses case. to earn your living braiding hair, very common in
This panel was convened by the National Archives to explore the original intent of the declaration of independence, including the popular interpretation by 19thcentury abolitionists to focus on the phrase life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This is about an hour. This is someone different than what was on your program. Let me tell you the order we will introduce these speakers. First, we will have hotly. She is at the tail end of a guggenheim fellowship. Then she will be followed by the professor from the university of South Carolina. Abigail adams. Third, we will hear from professor eric slaughter, the university of chicago. He is the author of the state as a work of arts the cultural underpinnings of the constitution. And finally you will hear from professor David Armitage from Harvard University who is very well known for his book, the declaration of independence a global history. Everyone will speak for about 10 minutes and we will have questions from the audience. I think
Fessor woody holton from the university of South Carolina. Third we hear from professor eri c slauter from the university of chicago. Finally, we hear from professor David Armitage at Harvard University known fo the declaration of independence a global history. Everyone will speak about 10 to 12 minutes and then we have questions from the audience. I think youre all set. Prof. Brewer thank you to organizers of this conference, which is terrific. When the delegates to the Continental Congress assembled in june of 1776, they faced a dilemma. Fighting between colonists and british troops have been going on more than a year. Political disputes over whether colonists needed to dissent to their own government and taxes remained at a standoff. Some delegates sought peace and redfin scissors peace and reckons lesion with their king. Only seven supported independence. New york, new jersey delaware, and South Carolina were not yet ready to fight. Congress chose a committee of five men to persuad
Community service and some counseling but the bulk of my penances completed. Do you write about where you mention your experience in your most recent book wasnt justified, do you feel like your shows justified. Guest will i think when you look at justice you have to look at whether someone did it but you also have to look at whether the penalty is proportion to the offense. You have to look at whether other people who did the same thing got a similar penalty. So justice requires proportionality, and and it requires a certain equity. In my case i did exceed the campaignfinance laws and i said from the beginning i had done that. So some punishment was in fact appropriate. The problem is there seems to be no one in the United States who receive the kind of punishment i got for doing what i did. To give you an example of what i mean, theres an asian indian fellow and he gave 186,000 over the campaignfinance limit to a whole the campaignfinance limit to a whole series of democratics candida
[inaudible conversations] before we get into your latest book, update us on your legal situation and where you are. Well, happily my legal situation has mostly resolved and by that i mean i have completed an eightmonth overnight confinement in a Confinement Center for exceeding the Campaign Finance limit by 20,000. Im still doing some Community Service and some counseling but the bulk of my is completed. You write about that or you mention your experience in your most recent book america. Was it justified like stevie her punishment was justified . I think that when you look at just a chip to not only look at whether someone did it but you also to look at whether the penalty is proportionate to the offense and yet look at whether other people who did the same thing got a similar penalty. Justice requires proportionality and was quires a certain equity. In my case i did exceed the Campaign Finance laws. In fact, i said from the beginning i have done that. So some punishment was, in fact,