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joining us is jeff robbins , he is the former assistant u.s. attorney for the district of massachusetts in joining us to talk about the congressional investigation of january 6. thinks for your time. guest: thanks for having me. host: can you expand on the role you served in congress, particularly in investigation and how congress investigates things, or events and things? guest: i was simultaneously chief counsel for the democrats, minority at the time, for something called the senate permanent subcommittee on investigations, which is a great subcommittee with a significant bipartisan tradition. at the same time, i was dippy chief counsel for the minority for the senate governmental affairs committee, the full committee. at the time, it was investigating allegations and proprieties by the clinton-gore campaign in the 1996 election. host: when did you think about the january 6 criminal referral what did you think about the january 6 criminal referral? guest: the underlying

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