hundreds of fascists on all sides. reporter: if you re saying organized violence is not protected by the first amendment, but speech that talks about violence is protected, there s obviously going to be a question of where along that spectrum can you say the law should step in or the first amendment doesn t protect you. that s what this case, i think, is interestingly going to be about. what is that line? you have to understand the nature of internet communication and how much that changes the nature of incitements. reporter: in a sense, no matt whae matter what the verdict is, you ve already won because richard spencer said it was financially crippling. jeff scoop says they don t hold public rallies anymore. whatever they re doing behind the scenes, they can t get numbers in public. what do you think about that? people need to understand that this is real, that it is out there, that it allows people from all otver the country and the world to organize in ways that were pre
in many ways, a surprise. in closed chats, they discussed what to wear, what to bring for lunch, how do you sew a swastika onto a flag. how do you attack people with common weapons? it is a racially motivated, violent conspiracy. it is not anything that s protected by the first amendment or by any other sort of right that people have. white lives matter! reporter: defendants are men who made themselves white power brands. richard spencer, chris cantwell, jeff scoop, matt hinebach, jason kessler, and more. they ve argued they were simply engaging in their first amendment right to speech and protest, and the violence is the fault of the police were not separating them from the counter-protesters. but what made the alt-right grow so quickly, the internet, has been its undoing in this case. because the defendants left behind an enormous paper trail of what they say were jokes about racial violence. with an event like charlottesville that was national news, maybe may have
that is a racially motivated violent conspiracy and that s not anything that is protected by the first amendment or by any other sort of right that people have. reporter: the defendants are men who made themselves white power brands. richard spencer, chris cantwell, jeff scoop, matt heinbach, jason kessler, and more. they ve argued they were simply engaging in their first amendment right to speech and pro protest. and that the violence is the fault of the police for senator not separating them from the counter protestors but what made the alt right grow so quickly, the internet, has been its undoing in this case because the defendants left behind an enormous paper trail of what they say were jokes about racial violence. with an event like charlottesville that was national news, people may have seen the torch march. they might have seen the car attack on the news but if you look beneath the surface, there is just so much more. and what that evidence shows is
many of the plaintiffs in our lawsuit were hear that evening. they had been peacefully standing there, protesting white supremacists coming into their town. surrounded, beaten, punched, kicked, all while these extremists were chanting things like jews will not replace us and other violent, racist, anti-semitic chants. what happened that weekend was in many ways intended to be a surprise. the violence was planned in chats where they discussed everything from what to wear, what to bring for lunch, how to use free speech instruments. that is a racially motivated, violent conspiracy, and that s not anything that s protected by the first amendment or by any other sort of right that people have. reporter: the defendants are men who made themselves white power brands. richard spencer, chris cantwell, jeff scoop, matt heimbach.
so has jeff scoop. they don t hold public rallies, anymore. whatever they might be doing behind the scenes, they are not able to get numbers in public. what do you think about that? people need to really understand that that this is real, that it s out there. that it allows people from all over the country and the world to organize in ways that were previously impossible. and that s a real and present danger. reporter: tanisha says despite all the national intention charlottesville got after 2017, it didn t change the systems that benefit white men. that there are two systems, and two sets of standards whether that s for leaders in city government or people fighting in the streets. i probably could have literally kicked one of their asses that day. but if i put my hands on them, i m going to jail. but they did it all day and they got to go home, free. well, it s very interesting that this civil lawsuit has been the biggest consequence for those organizers, not facing, like, c