they were proudly posting on the internet and making very clear what they had been doing. it wasn t until really in the aftermath did day some have the realization that what they had done was wrong. some still continue to deny what they did was wrong. just on the topic of liz cheney, the other line that really stuck with me as well during this hearing, was when she said that there will come a point when donald trump is gone, but your dishonourable remain. to me that is the top three of the lines that i think we heard this evening. let s talk about that point when donald trump will be gone. neal, do you think a criminal case against trump was laid out? i do. i absolutely do. as i say, it requires those to. things criminal intent, and a bad criminal act. both of those i think were at least if not met tonight, enough evidence to really say that the justice department, you have to open an investigation, if you don t have one already, against donald trump. we know that there is an inves
goal is public service. i worked with liz cheney in 2000 and 2004. i ve had criticisms of liz cheney, related to the iraq war and a number of other things i ve had, of her. but i think she s much more worried. i mean, much more concerned about what happens with our democracy and our constitution than her political life. she is behind, as far as i can tell, she is behind. i don t dismiss the odds of her winning in that. i think her appeal to principled conservatism still does well but as i said earlier, she knows she s putting her political life on the line. and doing this on behalf of the constitution of the united states of america. and our democracy. and she is willing to lose her office because that s not the most important thing she holds dear, what she holds here as our country. standing for the constitution, than wyoming. carlos, when you watch tonight, it s unclear if it help the committee, or if it helped
he sat by while the capitol was under attack. didn t call the military, didn t call the national guard, didn t call the justice department, didn t call homeland security. instead, it took to pence and others to do that. and so, look i think that liz cheney in particular tonight, was beyond outstanding. i think i m a pretty good lawyer. but she, what she did dead rivals anything i have ever seen in any courtroom, anywhere. and, also just across party lines and do that. i gotta say, if this country is going to make it through, and get with transcend this ridiculous partisanship, it s acts like that. and i m saying this about someone who used to call me, she use to run ads run against me calling me a member of justice al-qaeda seven and also it s of nonsense. was nonsense in the past, but tonight it was exactly right on. do the american people realize that about liz cheney? because liz cheney has just been painted as this anti trump politician. she is a true conservative republican.
so the point is, history is going to be kind to liz cheney. history is gonna be cruel to other republicans. will history, will republicans be kind to liz cheney? we are not about to see republican standup, we just watched that first hearing we were, wrong trumps about, guy we are with us. however, are you going to see the national gop, maybe start to dial back, because they have been pushing hard against liz cheney for the last year and a half. no way, especially when she said what she said tonight! she is the one who called out the other republicans and said, donald trump would be gone and your dishonor will stay. she is going for it. and i don t think the other republicans are gonna bring her back into the fold. she is out there by herself. well, she is not out there by herself. no she s out there with the constitution. there we go, all right. that she s out there with the constitution. constitution will last a lot longer than the rest of us. neal, watching this footage,
testify before the committee but he has spoken before the american people. he has told the american people that donald trump lied. he has lined up with liz cheney, adam kinzinger, mitch mcconnell to a lesser degree. mcconnell has also said, by the way, mcconnell has not dismissed this committee. mcconnell said that this committee s work is important. and that he was looking forward to hearing from it. mr. dowd, i heard, video saying people saying hang mike pence. i looked at wooden frames with nooses hanging. do you really think mike pence has that up and stood up, say, this was wrong with happen to me? because i don t feel like i ve heard it. i mean, i ve criticized mike pence over a number of things, and how much he s just acquiesce that trump over the last five or six years. i think in this instance, he did stand strong. you have to give him credit. he stood strong as the committee laid out, he stood strong on an immense pressure of the president of the united states. and a numb