thing to see, as you say, in a jury pool that is inclined to believe the things that donald trump says. >> charles, trump's immunity appeal, his latest appeal, i want to share what he said on tuesday night, right after the appeals court hearing. watch this. >> if this case were on immunity, and i did nothing, wrong absolutely nothing wrong, i'm working for the country. and i worked on very hard on voter fraud, because we have to have free elections. >> yes, we have to have free elections, but there was no voter fraud. if he just trying to gaslight the legal system here? >> of course he is. not just the legal system, but as he's prone to do, he's also trying to poison the public narrative in terms of how they view his actions post january