results of a free and fair election. give us the important lessons. what should the american people be taking away from the experience beyond the mechanics of what trump is doing, but the broad strokes. i think the big picture, and it is just very fascinating how this book strong case study. where, you know, trump was fundamentally had different motives and different interests in being in office than any other president, republican or democrat. he was really in office for the autocratic goals of amassing as much power as possible. and you see he doesn t really listen to people. he may have listened to a drunk giuliani because giuliani was a loyalist, and everybody was telling him the same thing. you see this, of course, with putin, too. they don t really listen to people. they re not interested in input because they think they have all the answers and they re going to do what they need to do. the second is that trump was in office for to make money off the presidency.
again. ruth ben-ghiat, thank you. coming up on morning joe, voters go to the polls in five more states today. steve kornacki will be at the big board. plus, democratic senator raphael warnock of georgia joins the conversation, as he campaigns to keep his seat in one of the most closely watched races of the fall. also ahead, we ll hear from one of the 20 senators who struck a bipartisan deal on the gun safety framework, democrat chris coons. and we ll have more on yesterday s january 6th committee hearing on donald trump s big lie and his big rip-off. a member of the committee, zoe lofgren is a guest. lofgren t and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost® today. my a1c stayed here,
including bannon and mcconnell, saying the president needed some time to blow off steam and that of course was a mistake. every day of these hearings is based on a theme. tomorrow, day three, is about the department of justice, and trump s effort to get them on board with the big lie, and you heard a little bit from attorney general barr je yesterday, surely will tomorrow, what else are you hearing what the committee will present. one of my favorite lines i am looking forward to tomorrow, the idea that geoff ry clark, this environmental lawyer at d.o.j., basically a civil lawyer and no criminal experience and the thing to get him in charge of the justice department and that s what trump wanted to do and toss the leadership of the justice department to try to get his way and apparently there is this quote and this moment, you know, because geoff ry clark was this environmental lower, go back to your office and we will call you when there is an oil spill and i think that is one of quot
give us your take-aways from yesterday. which testimony do you feel was the strongest and most damning for the former president? you know, it was interesting to hear it sort of laid out, and this is what everyone has sort of known for a very long time, that a lot of people in trump s inner circle, a lot of republicans knew these claims were complete nonsense and rubbing our brain cells together and realize that there is no possibility of him coming close in the total count. the numbers were extraordinary. there is no chance of any kind of fraud could potentially overcome this. this is something that has been with the gop for decades, these claims of mass voter fraud that are never substantiated. but i think, you know, even people who are ingrained in, that and know that very well, knew that the numbers just were nowhere close here. that wasn t a possibility. you can t have several states, you can t have these massive criminal conspiracies across several states, with no evidence whats