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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130413:05:26:00

15. yeah, me too. having battled addiction most of their adult lives, joe and john have decided to fill out applications to get into enough is enough. i mean, i didn t sniff no glue or nothing like that. cocaine, heroin. meth. pain pills. all the good stuff, right? it will be up to wright to decide if the men get into the program. and he doesn t accept just anyone. i guess the question is what s going to be different now. especially because you ve had some experience in treatment before. i ve tried hold up. what s going to be different? because i m quite sure you said the same thing before when they did an initial assessment i m tired of going to jail, blah, blah, blah. those are the kinds of things that people often say, i want you to reach down inside and found out really what s going to be different this time? i don t have the answers. okay. perfect. i m sick and tired of being

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130413:08:58:00

always taking notes and asking questions. but three weeks in, carroll is out of the program. what happened with mr. carroll was there was a disagreement between two of his peers. he got up out of his rack, went to the bathroom area, put on his shoes, which is an indication of threatening and intimidating behavior. and as a result of that, he was put out of the program. the penitentiary mentality still running. again, he wants to put his shoes on and fight people, and it wasn t even his problem. it was somebody else s problem, but they was in the penitentiary together. you know how to goes. he s a good person and everything, when it comes to a friend, but when it comes to the program, he was just telling everybody what they want to hear and stuff like that. i ain t dogging him. i m not saying something i wouldn t say to him. it s an accountability program. it ain t about rats and snitches, it s about helping each other out. the expectation is job respects each other. smithson

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130413:08:27:00

sick and tired. i m tired of the same road i was going down the wrong path and i want the good path. let me tell you a couple of things about it. we do 12-step meetings, relapse prevention, life skills, big book study and we do a men s group. the hardest part of the program is what we call accountability. what s going to go against the whole jail code, that means that your peers will hold you accountable. we don t use the word snitch, we don t use the word rat. so if you re doing something some violation of the rules and regulations, have you have an opportunity to hold yourself accountable and if you don t your peers will. i m ready to make a change and. enough is enough. they sound real good, but who doesn t sound real good. they say all the right things. but the test is going to be once they actually get in the program.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130413:05:25:00

difficult in recovery because of guilt, shame and remorse they experience. because you made a mistake doesn t mean that you are a mistake. the program is called enough is enough and it s run by the jail s substance abuse program coordinator kentucky wright. you have a disease and you are not responsible for having it but you are responsible for recovery. the focus on basic recovery to help them get back into main stream society. one of the things that happens traditionally in corrections to address rearrest, the same old kind of soup every day, get locked up, stay in jail learn you who to be a better criminal but never address the issues that are related to people coming in and out of jail. there s a men s version of the program as well. when did you start?

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130413:08:57:00

hands right here in the crease like that. they tell you, get naked, bend over, squat, cough, you know? all right, well, but you re not going to help yourself if you caused a problem here, you know what i m saying? you just could have made your problem worse. while powell might be considered a problem inmate, those enrolled in enough is enough, the jail s antidrug program, are held to a higher standard. part of recovery is that you ve got to help somebody else. you have to help someone else. after near lifelong addictions that have kept them both coming in and out of jail, john carroll and joe smithsson were recently accepted into the program. one of the things i shared with them is the hardest part of the program, is for them to hold each other accountable. we use the word accountability, because i care enough about you, i want to hold you accountable because you can t see everything that s wrong with you. the message seems to have gotten through to smithson. mr. smithsom

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