notice they had to furlough 300 employees and just last week i heard that in the northern california, very small community, had to furlough 60 employees. now that might not sound like a big number, but you think about those furloughed employees and their dependence now becomes for, you know, food service, food assistance, and general aid, particularly in the great plains area where there s already starting to be the winter blizzards are setting in and energy subsidies are important. all of those things require some assistance through the tribal government, who hasn t been paid. from this shutdown. jackie, you and i talked earlier during the sort of election cycle, and i m reminded again of that battle over the violence against women act and sort of the role that indigenous women were playing in that entire fight. and it just makes me think again, is there some sense that american indians are simply disposable because they are not politically relevant in the ways
and former chief economist and economic policy adviser to vice president joe biden. lisa cook, associate professor of economics at michigan state university. elahe izadi, staff correspondent at the national journal, and rick newman, finance columnist with yahoo!. jackie, thanks for being here. if you can help us understand how the shutdown is having a particular impact on american indians who live on reservation lands. yes, thank you so much for inviting me to do that. you know, indian country, if you combined indian country all together, it would be the fourth largest state in the nation, yet we re like washington, d.c., we have a high dependence on the federal government because of the trust and treaty obligations and our health care programs, education programs, et cetera, are funded by the federal government. so a shutdown like this has immediate dramatic effects to indian country. i m hearing from tribes across the country, in fact, in the crow nation, they sent out a
would otherwise. i have kind of a meta or uber question about all this. listening to jackie and lisa, both i think extremely articulate defenders of issues rick raised, you really have to scratch your let s say this thing ends next week, you have to really scratch your head and say, this is a family show, so i ll say what the heck was that all about? what was that all about? what we just went through, we ve inflicted deep pain on some fairly granular places. we ve shaved some basis points off gdp growth, for what? it wasn t going to be obama care. that came off the stage pretty quickly. then paul ryan started talking about these fiscal things and yesterday john boehner said i want to talk about big problems with the president. i think tomorrow he s going to say i want a hug just to get this behind me. the level of dysfunction is clear, and if we resolve this
of them should be included or not, but from the perspective of the republicans and the ideological differences of the democrats, that is the crux of the problem. thank you, jackie pata, and i thank you for joining us from washington to clarify where we are on this issue. thank you. coming up, why after all of that, i might make an argument that will is not actually a war on women. but you didn t think that i would say that? but that is up next. ragers, tho. for me, it s really about building ragers, tho. this extraordinary community. american express is passionate about the same thing. they re one of those partners that i would really rely on whether it s finding new customers, or, a new location for my next restaurant. when we all come together, my restaurants, my partners, and the community amazing things happen. to me, that s the membership effect.
them, period. i want to back up. we have only a few seconds here, but i want to sort of give you a chance to jump back in here, because you were saying that part of the problem of the republicans facing is, is it for everybody, and as i met and talked with jackie pata about it, i say literally about everybody and not having these protections to allow people to fall through the cracks. it is difficult for the republicans who many of them are not supportive of the gay marriage or the homosexual relationships or the undocumented workers in the country to take a provision that lumps the groups together all at once, and on capitol hill that is the problem often when you have additions to bills, and they are usually coming together in one piece and taking them apart is not very easy, and the republicans are balking at having to vote for things that some things that they don t want to vote forother things. we can have a debate whether all