would otherwise. >> i have kind of a meta or uber question about all this. listening to jackie and lisa, both i think extremely articulate defenders of issues rick raised, you really have to scratch your -- let's say this thing ends next week, you have to really scratch your head and say, this is a family show, so i'll say what the heck was that all about? what was that all about? what we just went through, we've inflicted deep pain on some fairly granular places. we've shaved some basis points off gdp growth, for what? it wasn't going to be obama care. that came off the stage pretty quickly. then paul ryan started talking about these fiscal things and yesterday john boehner said i want to talk about big problems with the president. i think tomorrow he's going to say i want a hug just to get this behind me. the level of dysfunction is clear, and if we resolve this