greg: john, isn t it a wash, because you ll have people on both sides, i mean zimmerman s father is going to say, that is my son. trayvon martin s mother will say, that is my son. and he probably can t call trayvon martin s dad to the witness stand because he initially said it s not my son, a than now he says it is my son. the whole thing is a wash isn t it? and also trayvon martin s dad said he thought it was george zimmerman. that doesn t really help the prosecution in this case. you re right it is a wash. ultimately what it s going to come down to is common-sense, why did trayvon martin have his knees wet on the grass and why was george zimmerman on the bottom. who was the aggressor? who was the one with the injuries? and if you use reasonable, common-sense you would say that george zimmerman was the one that was getting the best of him. that is going to be something that the prosecution has to overcome in order to get a reasonable doubt guilty verdict. greg: susan you re the jury
no fact checker at msnbc. media matters gets the facts for them. we will be right back. no, actually we are doing half time. i was kidding. andrew, as crystal pointed out they did make a donation. wasn t it a wash? no, you are supposed to show up for the kids hospital. i kind of agree with you and here is why. crystal you said seinfield did the right thing and it is his fault for the since of his father? i don t think senior has disassociated himself. it was more about the brand than the principal. we are talking about not showing up for kids, but for donors. we are showing up for the kids. if we are going to be