vaccinated in any sort of atmosphere. so he s trying to kind of have it both ways a little bit on the issue of vaccines. yeah, i think there is no denying, john, clearly the former president here is it is not just because he believes everyone should be completely up front about being vaccinated and getting a booster, given the former president got vaccinated initially and it wasn t publicly revealed. it wasn t on camera or anything like that. booster shot as well. i think it also is driven by the fact that desantis is seen as a potential 2024 presidential front-runner. to me, the interesting part about this has nothing to do with the vaccines and everything to do with the fact that ron desantis is getting under donald trump s skin and trump is trying to do some pretty overt things about it. also getting under trump s skin, the truth. listen and watch and hanging up on npr. people have no idea how big this issue is and they don t want it to happen again.
yesterday as close as anybody, and i m still not clear whether mueller has another case to bring on the core question of coordinat coordinaureoordination or collu. we have a readout of what the president did say. it wasn t on camera there, but he did say, big news, chief of staff john kelly will be leaving at the end of the year. he says he s a great guy and he will announce over the next day or two the details there, but that he is leaving at the end of the year. he appreciates his service. we ll get the tape of the president speaking there while we re in a commercial break. we re obviously watching air force one, it will be taking off for philadelphia shortly. we ll be right back, everyone.
president, who was his self-described fixer, who is the one who knows figuratively where all the bodies are buried and has a potentially great deal about the president that people might be interested in. we ve already seen the white house now and the president for the last couple of weeks really taking steps to try to distance themselves from michael cohen. it s a strategy that we ve seen the president use repeatedly including with paul manafort, for instance, saying we did a little bit of my legal work. but you know this is something that the president is talking about. it was only a few weeks ago or a few months ago now where the president even tweeted about michael cohen. there was some talk about whether there was concern whether he might decide to flip on the president, decide to work with the fbi as it looks like he might be signaling that he is interested in doing, and you the president saying, no i don t think he s that kind of guy. i don t think it s going to happen. we ll see
that the president is talking about. it was only a few weeks ago or a few months ago now where the president even tweeted about michael cohen. there was some talk about whether there was concern whether he might decide to flip on the president, decide to work with the fbi as it looks like he might be signaling that he is interested in doing, and you the president saying, no i don t think he s that kind of guy. i don t think it s going to happen. we ll see now if that happen. we didn t see in this interview with abc the bravado. it wasn t on camera. what we ve heard is not that typical michael cohen bravado, not that typical michael cohen defense of trump, and of course no reference to this attorney-client privilege. the president doesn t claim to have him as his lawyer anymore. he has described himself as the president s fixer. there is no privilege with a fixer. in fact, fixers exist more on tv than they do, or in the movies more than they do in real life. right. the thing to reme
all the bodies are buried and has a potentially great deal about the president that people might be interested in. we ve already seen the white house now and the president for the last couple of weeks really taking steps to try to distance themselves from michael cohen. it s a strategy that we ve seen the president use repeatedly including with paul manafort, for instance, saying we did a little bit of my legal work. but you know this is something that the president is talking about. it was only a few weeks ago or a few months ago now where the president even tweeted about michael cohen. there was some talk about whether there was concern whether he might decide to flip on the president, decide to work with the fbi as it looks like he might be signaling that he is interested in doing, and you the president saying, no i don t think he s that kind of guy. i don t think it s going to happen. we ll see now if that happen. we didn t see in this interview with abc the bravado. it wasn t on