i ll call it trump care if you want to but i didn t hear president trump say to any of us i want my name on that. it s not about branding according to someone s name. it s serious business. people in this country feel that they re health care has been many people, millions, feel their access, quality and choice have been significantly reduced and the costs have gone up. look, many people the obamacare people say, oh, we allowed more people to have health care access. if it s unaffordable it s worse than not having the choice in the first place and what disappears immediately is the taxes and penalties millions of americans have been forced to fork over because people were mandated. bill: i m almost out of time and there s another significant story and that s the wikileaks story. can you say to americans they can trust the cia not spying on them? what i can say at this point
and then what political price the president would pay if he doesn t follow through on campaign promises or if whatever the republicans come up with fails. is just as bad as what they say obamacare is now. we see some of that already playing out in these town halls and republicans dismiss that as angry liberals or act vests. i spoke to some people in iowa, real hard core republicans, they want to see this move forward really quickly in terms of making good on the president s promises. they all know there s some sort of price to pay. democrats have said there s no such thing as obamacare it s essentially trump care. that s what they would like. that s ha thwhat they would voters to think. if he can t do it, he does have an escape hatch if he wants to push it, if the right would let him. he can make some minor fixes to obamacare, call it trump care and move on.
that s just sort of angry liberals or act vests. activists. i spoke to some people in iowa, real hard core republicans, they want to see this move forward really quickly in terms of making good on the president s promises. they all know there s some sort of price to pay. democrats have said there s no such thing as obamacare it s essentially trump care. that s what they would like. that s what they would like voters to believe. and all the problems associated with it. if he can t do it, he does have an escape hatch if he wants to push it, if the right would let him. he can make some minor fixes to obamacare, call it trump care and move on. we ve been reporting tonight on leaks coming out of the white house. the president actually talked to fox news this afternoon about it. they just released that portion of the interview. we re seeing it for the first time. let s play that. can we talk about president obama? you said you personally get along with him. you guys were going at e
something else up. it is incredibly complicated. i think the best case scenario that republicans will have is a couple tweaks, make it a little more competitive, and call it trump care. that s probably as good as it gets. here s the thing, republicans had six years to try to help the democrats fix obama care, and they decided to obstruct. donald trump had 18 months during the campaign to offer something new, but all he did was offer rhetoric after rhetoric after rhetoric, and what both republicans and donald trump is learning, is that you can t govern with rhetoric. it s not going to work. so today when donald trump talked about how complicated the health care system was or how obama care was, the first thing is, if he knew anything about governing and policy, he would know health care is complicated. he said that today, who knew
probably speak to that. he looks like picture in the picture frame before you put it if it said vice president. straight out of central casting. gray hair and deep voice. and very smart. and i think mike pence is going to play a critical role in the administration. but i bet you donald trump doesn t let it be called pence care, going to want to call it trump care and may repeal the affordable care act and call it trump care and do changes to it. very much just wanting to shed the name of obama to take away the signature achievement. my line was, last night the night before i think, donald trump plans to get rid of obamacare with something that looks a lot like. scopiexcept called trump car rebranding like the buildings. but not what the republicans