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MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 11:42:00

unruly torrent 2008-2020. i wanted to focus on one part in particular, you write about the supreme court and how it s viewed by the public now, it s become seemingly much more of a political animal than certainly the founders had conceived of it, and i want to get you to talk about, especially what you ve how you see that happening in the wake of the past year with the abortion rights where the supreme court seems out of step where poland suggests the majority of americans are. the supreme court is supposed to be out of stop with the majority. the supreme court is not a majority institution. a written constitution is a counter majority undertaking. the supreme court is supposed to construe the law, not satisfy public opinion. what the course did of course in the dobbs case, the abortion,

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 11:16:00

basically inoperable. their ground forces went to a minimal status, 300 tanks instead of 5,000, so the germans really backed completely out of the power equation and accepted economic dependence upon russia. now they got to turn this thing around, and it looks like they re going to do it, but at the end of the day, nato has come together in an astonishing manner, not just, you know, adding finland and sweden, but the power of nato has clearly been committed long term to confronting and protecting the east in particular the baltic states, poland, romania from further russian aggression. so putin s in trouble. they can talk all they want about they re fighting nato, they re fighting america, there s massive foreign advisers, all of that is nonsense. at the end of the day, substantial, billions of dollars

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 10:09:00

skis. i think it s a little bit dangerous to extrapolate as much as we would like to for the military success in the kharkiv region to the rest of the country, odessa, crimea and the rest. we have a long ways to go. there s three months before winter. i think president zelenskyy was explicit at this meeting i was at, it s important to do things like this, to gain momentum. the feeling is this will help lock in european support. they re very worried if the europeans go through a dark winter, the winter of our discontent, as he described it, short of seeing military progress on the ground, they might become much more wobbly in their support of ukraine, so the lot of this is not military advance but shoring up support for western ukraine, getting them through a difficult winter where mr. putin is going to turn off the taps. that s one thing. my other take away from the trip, this is different from korean war that admiral

MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 10:28:00

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MSNBC Morning Joe June 4, 2024 10:23:00

know, it was just a it just felt in congress, and i remember speaking to colin powell about how we needed to respond and so forth, and that was, you know, that day. here we are 21 years later, i would like to agree with jim stavridis, i think it s tough for now. i think it s tougher in part because of social media, the suspicion, the conspiracy theories. i think it s harder to bring the country together. i don t think crisis is quite the automatic glue or motivator in our society that it used to be. i think we ve learned that. that said, all sorts of things still matter. leadership matters, religious leaders matter, parents matter. the society can come together, i think we have to understand it s not automatic. we can t be passive. if he want the society to come together, we have to come together top to bottom. participate in it. good things happen when good people work together to make that happen, and that s from leadership at the top, and we were lucky on 9/11 that george w. b

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