can t be made enough. chief aide to mark meadows. exactly, to mark meadows, is that she overheard trump in the tent at the site of the rally, the quote/unquote stop the steal rally january 6th, saying that he didn t specific quote, i don t f ing care they have weapons. they re not here to hurt me. talking about all of the individuals in the crowd who had weapons and we heard testimony today that cassidy hutchinson had been told by secret service and others that those weapons included ar-15s and knives, et cetera. does that establish criminal intent? is that a smoking gun? you have identified a central moment because it s at that moment that we realized and we were able to show that donald trump knew that there were members of the crowd who were violent. armed, certainly. and who were refusing to lay down their arms to come in, which is why they weren t going through the metal detectors. he was saying he wanted the crowd all together. he said forget the mags. get rid o
how he responded. he himself is disputing the testimony, calling it phony, implying she was a leaker, wanted a job at mar-a-lago after he left office and also relying on something you have seen trump use in the past, which is he hardly knew her is what he is saying today. as she was testifying in real time, even though she was a top aide to his chief of staff and often on air force one and at many events with him, as you can see in a lot of video and photos from his time in office. and we should note, jake, that even before cassidy hutchinson came and testified today, that some of those who worked with her in the west wing, in trump s white house, had warned that they were going to downplay her testimony. trump world is going topush back on her testimony and dismiss her as a low level staffer. she was anything but. she was a senior adviser to the chief of staff, a senior adviser for legislative affairs and a special assistant to the president. she was so plugged in that i would often
danger and how many communities have been destroyed. martha: it s unbelievable. we ll see people back there in a few minutes. the only thing i can compare these shots is to a bombed area. it looks like it was bombed over 200 miles. it s devastating. our thoughts are with them. let me turn your attention if i may, the subject that we began with, which is the question of president biden meeting with joe manchin today. everybody is watching joe manchin, looking for any kind of indication where he is on this right now. where do you think he is on it right now if you can read the tea leaves, karl? i think he s on the opposite side of jen psaki that called the congressional budget office s report on friday of the enormous red ink with it phony. it s not phony. it s real. why? the existing cbo score is $1.7 trillion in spending of which up
of evidence but many pieces together and piece them together. and it is other things that trump has said and done, like the statement to comey to see his way to let flynn go, to his reported desires to fire mueller. these are just two examples and there s many more of things that all lead to the idea that what he said back there to lester holt, that s the real reason. even this morning, in his tweet about this, he said he called it the phony russia investigation. could you use that to say, hey, listen. he clearly doesn t like this investigation, he very clearly doesn t respect this investigation, he s calling it phony. does that add in to intent at all? i think it does, in part. i think really what you ve got to get to is why the heart of that obstruction case is why did he fire jim comey and why he s trying to just throw mud on the investigation goes to that point. the other point is, too, he s
this morning the president blasted, tweeting the house votes on fisa act today, the act that may have been used with the help of the discredited and phony dossier to so badly surveil and abuse the trump campaign by the previous administration and others. now, we should point out the co-founder of the firm behind the dossier told congress that it is political rhetoric to call it phony. back to the surveillance program. the president apparently tried clarify his initial tweet, writing with that being said i have personally directed the fix to the unmasking process since taking office and today s vote is about foreign surveillance of foreign bad guys on foreign land. we need it. get smart. moments ago white house press secretary sarah sanders denied the president s tweets contradicted each other. watch. secretary sanders: we don t think there was a conflict at all. the president fully supports the 702. and was happy to see that it passed the house today. but he does have overall concern