plays? he s not just has maa pathologio liar has magical powers he also claimed in the interview that he did at the time he was in washington dc to do meet the press. his always two hours away in delaware. the fire lasted 20 minutes. who knew he could be in two places? he also appeared to be nodding off. we are a community thataura relies. t laura: but was trump more engaged tossing supplies to the crowd or was biden more engaged with hisorie phony stories and s dazed looks? of course the press will never call biden out on the lies or
promptly issue an order on the matter. norm eisen and brandon van grack are back with me right now. norm, let s start with you. there is a big divide, right. there is the august date she wanted to state initially. there is the december date by the prosecutor. and then there is trump who says, after the election. was that ever realistic, after the election? no. good, one word answer. but that doesn t mean he won t get, it laura. because this is a judge, judge cannon, who has already made a pattern of pretty far out decisions, favoring donald from, in the litigation over the search warrant at mar-a-lago. she was struck down twice, by a very conservative, 11th circuit appellate panel. because she so favored him. and, who knows what she s going to do, but he shouldn t get it. why shouldn t he get it? and i think it goes to the december peace. but what we just talked about is the end date. but, the impart the partner
garland s office to a halt. why don t we do it. laura: do you think your colleagues and leadership who are more establishment types, do they understand that 81% of republicans think this indictment is politically motivated? are they aware of where the political winds have shifted in the gop or are they just going like it s 2004 all over again? i think they re aware of it laura but they re so caught up in the dc media environment they don t remember the implications of this. if we sort of step back and think of the trump presidency, every single alleged scandal there was this initial rush of news and then it turned out when you looked at the details it wasn t nearly as bad as the dc press corps would lead us to believe. they need to remember here that all of the sensationalism around this indictment we re going to learn the truth and i suspect the truth is not going to be nearly as bad as reported on cnn after the indictment. laura: what s happened to the public s interest in inst
american majority ned, i think it s wrong to dismiss the stories as one offs with the border open . a lot of americans feel likeer they are now strangers inthey r their own land. and , you know, they re thes they suspects as they go aboutour th their daily lives. what areou your thoughts on the. incidents? i think you re right,it laura . it s not s n isolated, is becoming a more regular occurrence, whether it s a big big issue li the border or this incident inr new york city. but it s just another example of socia lawlessnl lawlessness in whichde we as a society have decided wed idn t agree and have a common set of values and ideals. e ha and we lost that ability a longo time ago in which we had the ability to agree on something was good and right and something was wrong and evil. tan era and now we re in an erae good, hardworking people are targeted simply because they might have the wrong values set, according to thea, left or those in the inyou en the media.
the shot. it s safe . it s a the risk benefit analysis. we ve done that. it reminds me of that. yeah, absolutely. laurissa, two things.y of covide number one is that the tragedy of covid is that the governmentn no longer believes these public health warnings or alerts or assurancesgs by our government and the public doesn t believe that anymore. and number two a, the epa hasasn been busy for the last decadesg hassling farmers in californiatr and other states over, you know, waterways and tractor tracks. and now they re tellingc the public that this is not a safety problem. t we can see it with our own twotn eyes.d so this is the governmentthe wegaslighting the people and its outrageous. and we shouldn t accept it.t. laura: great to see you, think to see heartmate, thank you so much. yu great to see you. now, back in march, of 2020 one , you all remember this, the doj announced that it is investigating florida congressman matt gaetz over floridcowhether he had a relatp with a 17 yea