tonight, bringing us the context are stefanie brown james, co founder of collective pac, the group campaigning for equal representation in american politics, and former ukjustice secretary and chief secretary to the treasury david gauke. welcome to the programme. for several days now western leaders have been providing political cover for the german chancellor, while privately venting frustration at his reluctance to send the leopard tanks to ukraine. according to german newspapers his refusal to approve the deliveries on friday, at a meeting of nato defence ministers, led to sharp words between him and the us secretary of defence lloyd austin. olaf schulz s office deny that, saying neither the tone nor content of the reports were true. but certainly there was frustration, and you could hear it when the bbc spoke, earliertoday, to the polish prime minister, who has decided to go it alone. let me put it this way, poland and the free world cannot afford not to send leopard ta
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