Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Context with Christian Fraser 20240706

36 conservative rebels are backing an amendment to the Online Safety bill that would impose Prison Sentences on Social Media Bosses who fail to uphold child safety. Tonight with the context, jennifer carroll, who served as a republican Lieutenant Governor of florida, and lord peter ricketts, former uk ambassador to paris and National Security adviser. Warm welcome to the programme. On monday, the white house revealed that back in november just before the midterms a batch of highly classified documents were discovered among joe biden� s personalfiles, in an office he had used after serving as the Vice President. We were told the documents were immediately handed to the federal authorities. But now we learn that in december, they found a second batch, not in an office, not in a locked cupboard, but in his garage in wilmington. This morning, the president was touting improved figures on inflation. There was incredulity in the room and not in relations to the improving economic picture. Classified material next to your corvette . What were you thinking . Let me. Im going to get a chance to speak on all of this, god willing, soon, but as i said earlier this week. And by the way, my corvettes in a locked garage, 0k . So its not like theyre sitting out on the street. So the material was in a locked garage . Yes, as well as my corvette. But as i said earlier this week, people know i take classified documents and Classified Material seriously. I also said were cooperating fully and completely with the justice departments review. There are a lot of unanswered questions. The us attorney in chicago is investigating. What were these documents, how secret, how safely were they stored . We know that among the files found in dc was secret information pertaining to the uk. And why did the white house fail to disclose this problem back in november, or indeed on monday, when the reports of the first batch came to light . It is a new opening for the Republican House majority, who are poised to investigate democrats. I think congress has to investigate this. Heres an individual thats been in office for more than a0 years, heres an individual that sat on 60 minutes, that was so concerned about President Trumps documents locked, and now we find him, just as a Vice President , keeping it for years out in the open in different locations. And it puts the Attorney General in a very awkward position. Under the regulations, the extraordinary circumstances here require the appointment of a Special Counsel for this matter. This Appointment Underscores for the public the departments commitment to both independence and accountability in particularly sensitive matters and to making decisions indisputably guided only by the facts and the law. The Attorney General merrick garland. Lets bring in thomas dupree. Hes a former us Deputy Assistant Attorney General. You are very welcome to the programme. Yet another Special Prosecutor appointed, and this one, i understand the work from your law firm. So what can you tell us about him . I firm. So what can you tell us about him . , firm. So what can you tell us about him . ,. , firm. So what can you tell us about him . ,. ,. , firm. So what can you tell us about him . , him . I can tell you that robert is an incredibly him . I can tell you that robert is an incredibly smart him . I can tell you that robert is an incredibly smart lawyer, him . I can tell you that robert is an incredibly smart lawyer, a him . I can tell you that robert is| an incredibly smart lawyer, a very talented lawyer, a man of excellent judgment and a man of the highest integrity. I think it was an excellent choice by the Attorney General to put someone of robs calibre in this role, and to your point, it seems like Here We Go Again it seems like not a month goes by in Thejustice Department and washington, dc where we dont have any Special Counsel appointed to investigate some sort of wrongdoing. Yeah, indeed so. President biden says he is cooperating. He says the documents that were discovered were medially flagged to be federal authorities and handed over. Obviously that did not happen with donald trump. His lawyers obfuscated, they lied about documents at mar a lago and they obstruct to the discovery of those documents, but the bottom line here is Thatjoe Biden was nonetheless holding onto classified documents as a private citizen. So what are the criminal implications of that . I criminal implications of that . I think you put your vera lynn i dissipate will be the president positive primary line of defence, that the moment he learned these document are being stored improperly and in an unlawful place, he medially reported it and is fully cooperating Yourfinger Medially reported it and is fully cooperating your finger on the president s. The Distention May be lost on a lot of the American Public, who basically ca double standard, that on one hand President Biden was criticising form President Trump reporting these classified documents, after he was no longer president , but at the same time President Biden had kind of done the same thing himself. You President Biden had kind of done the same thing himself. Same thing himself. You said a little earlier, same thing himself. You said a little earlier, here same thing himself. You said a little earlier, here we same thing himself. You said a little earlier, here we go same thing himself. You said a| little earlier, Here We Go Again, and it is not the first time that an official, a senior official, has fallen afoul of this. Hillary clinton, joe biden, donald trump. When it comes to classified information, they are supposed to be a sheer clean of custody, so why does it not work . It a sheer clean of custody, so why does it not work . Does it not work . It boggles the mind how this does it not work . It boggles the mind how this seems does it not work . It boggles the mind how this seems to does it not work . It boggles the mind how this seems to come i does it not work . It boggles the | mind how this seems to come up does it not work . It boggles the mind how this seems to come up again and again and again, and it almost inevitably seems to involve people who really should know better, people at the highest levels of government, who are very familiar with the restrictions placed on the trip and of classified information, and yet they seem to run afoul of the rules on a regular basis. There is supposed to be Chain Of Custody. No one should ever lose track of where a classified document is located. In some cases, it could be another agency in our government, national archives, which is sometimes the agency that sounds the alarm, when they look at their list of classified documents that they are supposed to possess and the relays that some are missing from the list and indonesia looking for them. ~. The list and indonesia looking for them. The list and indonesia looking for them. ,. ,. ,. , them. What are the arguments one ofthe them. What are the arguments one of the arguments them. What are the arguments one of the arguments donald them. What are the arguments one of the arguments donald trump them. What are the arguments one of the arguments donald trump and i of the arguments donald trump and his legal team them up with is he had declassified the documents can he was president and believed he had the ability to do that. That is to be adjudicated. The Differencesjoe Biden was Vice President. He did not have the power to do that. Does that make joe have the power to do that. Does that makejoe bidens position more tenuous . Make joe bidens position more tenuous . , ~. ,. , � ~ make joe bidens position more tenuous . , ~. ,. , �. , tenuous . You know, i dont think so. I do not think tenuous . You know, i dont think so. I do not think donald tenuous . You know, i dont think so. I do not think Donald Trumps i do not think Donald Trumps argument carries a lot of weight, although it is true president scanty classified document, there is a procedure they have to follow up which i am not confident was followed in the case of President Trump. One of the argument is twofold, one is that the scale was smaller than donald trump. In this case, it appears to be a smaller document amount than the ones that President Trump took, and number two, by your point about President Biden cooperating, it was an inadvertent error and a fully cooperated the moment they learned of it, which, again, he will try and draw a contrast with the former president s handling. Draw a contrast with the former president s handling. Lets bring in jennifer carroll, president s handling. Lets bring in jennifer carroll, who president s handling. Lets bring in jennifer carroll, who is president s handling. Lets bring in jennifer carroll, who is a jennifer carroll, who is a republican. Does this appointment disarm some of the political criticism republicans have had for the white house and the doj . It would not disarm them, but it would ive would not disarm them, but it would give the would not disarm them, but it would give the white house cover particularly the Press Secretary cover, particularly the Press Secretary cover, that she cannot answer any of the questions considering the council the questions considering the council has been appointed. But i want council has been appointed. But i want to council has been appointed. But i want to advise you that this is a tranche want to advise you that this is a tranche of classified documents that has been tranche of classified documents that has been discovered because it was at the has been discovered because it was at the penn has been discovered because it was at the penn centre, the first discovery, Second Discovery was at his home discovery, Second Discovery was at his home in discovery, Second Discovery was at his home in delaware, and then the third in his home in delaware, and then the third in his his home in delaware, and then the third in his office, and then the third third in his office, and then the third discovery was in his garage. The question lends itself that, who did he the question lends itself that, who did he request authority to remove the documents that were classified . What was the documents that were classified . What was the Chain Of Custody . Who had access what was the Chain Of Custody . Who had access to seeing these documents . And how come we have not seen or documents . And how come we have not seen or gotten a laundry list, like we did seen or gotten a laundry list, like we did on seen or gotten a laundry list, like we did on the President Trump, as to what exactly we did on the President Trump, as to what exactly these documents are . Additionally, why were his attorneys going additionally, why were his attorneys going through his office, as well as his home going through his office, as well as his home to going through his office, as well as his home to gather documentation . Was somebody alerted that somebody. Did it fall into the wrong somebody. Did it fall into the wrong hands . And these are questions that should wrong hands . And these are questions that should be answered by the white house that should be answered by the white house now, because what it is going to do house now, because what it is going to do is house now, because what it is going to do is fester and a lot of rumours and accusations as to the real intent was under the, what do you call it. Intent was under the, what do you call it. Them intent was under the, what do you call it, the. The pen biden centre. Call it, the. The pen biden centre, with all the money that was coming centre, with all the money that was coming from china, what did it go to . Giving coming from china, what did it go to . Giving Policy Guidance in this centre to . Giving Policy Guidance in this centre the to . Giving Policy Guidance in this centre. The American Public is going to be centre. The American Public is going to be more centre. The American Public is going to be more alerted now because of what happened at mar a lago. Do what happened at maralago. Do ou what happened at mar a lago. You accept the what happened at mar a lago. Drr you accept the distinction . There were boxes and boxes of classified documents and mar a lago that donald trump wanted to hang onto. The president has said, i was surprised to learn they were there, and these ten documents, they were mixed up in plans for bo bidens funeral, a condolence letters. It seems as if they are gathered up and sucked in a file and he did not know they were there. What you accept that ex clinician . , there. What you accept that ex clinician . ,. , clinician . That is even more concerning clinician . That is even more concerning. As clinician . That is even more concerning. As a clinician . That is even more concerning. As a former clinician . That is even more concerning. As a former Military Person concerning. 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Once i left the military and retired, my clearance the military and retired, my clearance left the day i left, so therefore clearance left the day i left, so therefore i could not to conduct mentation that had classified or any other mentation that had classified or any other top secret identifications on them, other top secret identifications on them, and other top secret identifications on them, and he is a Vice President had no authority them, and he is a Vice President had no authority to take it with him, but today no authority to take it with him, but today in a briefing at the white house, but today in a briefing at the white house, he but today in a briefing at the white house, he said, or his handlers said, house, he said, or his handlers said. That house, he said, or his handlers said, that he misplaced the documents. That is a very different take than documents. That is a very different take than what we had, that he did not know take than what we had, that he did not know it take than what we had, that he did not know it was there, and now it is an admittance that the documents were misplaced, so a lot of questions still need to be answered. Petei, questions still need to be answered. Peter, jennifer is absolutely right. If you as the former National Security adviser had taken home some documents and we found them in your home several years later, you would be in a lot of trouble. Be in a lot of trouble. Yeah, i would be be in a lot of trouble. Yeah, i would be in be in a lot of trouble. Yeah, i would be in a be in a lot of trouble. Yeah, i would be in a lot of be in a lot of trouble. Yeah, i would be in a lot of trouble. L be in a lot of trouble. Yeah, i would be in a lot of trouble. I would would be in a lot of trouble. I would probably would be in a lot of trouble. I would probably be would be in a lot of trouble. 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And if you were lying on the floor in cardiac arrest, an ambulance would on average have taken nearly 11 minutes to reach you. The target is seven minutes. Some people claiming sickness and disability benefits here in the uk could be allowed to keep receiving payments even if they find work. At the moment, benefits can be reduced or withdrawn altogether when a claimant finds a job. In autumm, the chancellor jeremy hunt expressed concern that employment had not returned to pre pandemic levels. There are 2. 5 Million People missing from the Labour Market because of medical conditions. Ambulance waiting times, why do you think it is such a problem . 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It is the smaller businesses. Exactly. Supply. It is the smallerl businesses. Exactly. Yeah. Supply. It is the smaller businesses. Exactly. Yeah. Inflation did come down businesses. Exactly. Yeah. Inflation did come down a businesses. Exactly. Yeah. Inflation did come down a peg businesses. Exactly. Yeah. Inflation did come down a peg today, businesses. Exactly. Yeah. Inflation did come down a peg today, so businesses. Exactly. Yeah. Inflation i did come down a peg today, so things slightly improving in the economy, and the jobless figures are looking better as well. We will move on. Rishi sunak could face a major backbench rebellion over the governments revised plans to prevent harmful material on the internet. 36 tory mps are backing a plan to make Social Media Bosses face prison if they fail to protect children from damaging content online. The idea was first suggested by borisjohnson, but then ditched in favour of higher fines. Its one of a series of ammendments which will be debated next week. Lets bring in our Political Correspondent ione wells, whos in our westminster studio. What changes does this amendment make to this bill . Make to this bill . Essentially what these conservative make to this bill . Essentially what these conservative mps make to this bill . Essentially what these conservative mps and these conservative mps and Opposition Parties as well would like and what they are trying to amend this bill to say is that senior managers at Tech Companies could be personally liable, and therefore face Prison Sentences, if they fail to take necessary steps to protect children from seeing harmful content online, things like enforcing fins like Age Verification or Parental Controls or taking certain material down, and the argument that is being put forward by these mps, including one of the lead rebels, one of the conservative mps backing this amendment, is that they point to the example used in they point to the example used in the construction industry, saying that there has been a reduction in deaths in the industry like construction by making senior managers personally liable for not taking down harmful content in this case. So that is the change that these mps are hoping to push for. This was an idea that had initially been suggest by the former Prime Minister borisjohnson, was eventually changed and scraps to instead be replaced by an idea of just finding some of these Tech Companies more if they dont comply with these regulations, but certainly these mps feel like this change would strengthen the accountability of the new law, on some of these social Media Companies. Some of these social Media Companies some of these social media comanies. ,. , companies. Take you for that. Labour has confirmed companies. Take you for that. Labour has confirmed to companies. Take you for that. Labour has confirmed to the companies. Take you for that. Labour has confirmed to the bbc companies. Take you for that. Labour has confirmed to the bbc tonight has confirmed to the bbc tonight that it supports the amendment, which means the government is at serious risk of defeat. 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Should he be there . Democrats say his visa should be revoked. We will discuss that after the break. Hello there. The heavy rain weve seen over recent days is taking a toll in terms of flooding, and thats caused some disruption. Weve had problems on the Railway Network across the south of wales today and at times, roads have been turned to rivers. I think the main message with lots of Flood Warnings still in force is check the conditions for your journey ahead before setting out on the journey. Now, on the satellite picture, this area of cloud is what brought todays heavy rain. But out in the atlantic, the next area of low pressure is brewing, and thats going to be bringing another dollop of heavy rain across those flood affected areas through friday night, so were certainly not out of the woods. Overnight, it stays windy, rain at times across northern england, north wales, Northern Ireland as well. The brisk winds stop it from getting that cold for a january night. Overnight lows, 3 7 degrees yes, its going to be another frost free night. Tomorrow, still pretty blustery. Another band of rain crossing Northern Ireland, where its going to be quite cloudy. The rain arriving across Northwest England and Western Scotland through the day. Otherwise there should be some bright or sunny spells, but still a number of showers around and temperatures still very mild 4 degrees above average in london, with highs of ii. Its through friday night that were likely to see another round of flooding because that area of low pressure i showed you developing, well, here it comes, pushing a band of heavy rain across england and wales. So, in other words, the flooding quite likely to get worse before it gets better. Now, through the weekend, the worst of the heavy rain does clear out of the way. What follows is rather windy conditions with some blustery showers following to many areas. So, a wet start to saturday, ongoing flooding in places, and through the day, the winds pick up across Northern Ireland, across parts of Western Scotland, the northwest of both england and wales, with gales for some. Still very mild across parts of the south, i2 celsius in london. But through the weekend, it is set to get colder, and by the time we get to sunday, well start to see some showers moving in here, turning increasingly wintry in nature. But its not the only place that will see showers. Temperatures across the board dropping, struggling to get much above freezing in scotland in places. Further southwards, highs of around 5 7 celsius, and into next week, it gets even colder still, cold enough for some snow showers to move in. Now, we are certain that it is going to get a lot colder, and with that, therell be some widespread frost around, some icy patches to watch out for, and those snow showers well, the air gets cold enough to see those come right down to very low levels. Hello, im christian fraser. Youre watching the context on bbc news. Supporters of the former president trashed the president ial palace over the weekend, while Jair Bolsonaro himself was thousands of miles away in florida. The chiefjustice of Israels Supreme Court accuses Benjamin Netanyahu of launching an unrestrained attack on the countrys judicial system. And a star is born the latest images from the James Webb Space Telescope confirm the location of a new planet , and its only 41 light years from earth. Tonight with the context, jennifer carroll, who served as a republican Lieutenant Governor of florida and lord peter ricketts, former uk ambassador to paris and National Security adviser. Welcome back. Dozens of House Democrats, including some of the top members of the House Foreign Affairs committee, Have Written To President Biden urging him to revoke the diplomatic visa that was issued to the former brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro. His presence in the orlando suburbs had gone largely unnoticed until sunday when his supporters in brazilia ransacked the key offices of state. Around that same time bolsonaro has checked himself into a Hospital Complaining of stomach problems. He has since been discharged. The former president has never officially conceded defeat. Democrats say he used the same trump playbook to undermine the election, and should now be expelled. Lets bring in mariana sanches, whos a journalist with bbc brasil. Shes in our washington studio. Welcome to the programme, just been looking in the last few minutes, brazils justice looking in the last few minutes, brazilsjustice minister said that if their investigation finds suspects for the attacks in other countries, then, of course, we will see cooperation. Its the white house and a bit of a see cooperation. Its the white house and a bit of a bind, see cooperation. Its the white house and a bit of a bind, doesnt it . ,. , it . High, christian. Yes. So, it seems like it . High, christian. Yes. So, it seems like the it . High, christian. Yes. So, it seems like the white it . High, christian. Yes. So, it seems like the white house i it . High, christian. Yes. So, it seems like the white house isj seems like the white house is working very closely to the congress and we have seen not only these letters of congress and House Democrats requesting that President Biden show the possible support to democracy and the House Democrats saying that they would to be down to help investigating what happened in brazil last sunday and, of course, the member is of the Democratic Party in the house are seeing this as a very similar situation with the january six attack in the us. So, today, they decided to request that President Biden also revoke a pass above diplomatic visa that boston scenario might be using to remain in the us and also direct the fbi to investigate if any of what happened investigate if any of what happened in Brasilia Last Sunday was planned or financed from someone in the american territory, so it seems like things are going the same way. So they went to federal authorities in america to have a look at this and see if there was any connection. You dont often get the situation, do you, where it democrats in congress are so vocal, but we are not hearing anything from the white house. Does that mean they are doing the president s dating . That mean they are doing the president s dating . Yes, to some extent, president s dating . Yes, to some extent. For president s dating . Yes, to some extent, for sure. President s dating . Yes, to some extent, for sure. It president s dating . Yes, to some extent, for sure. It is president s dating . Yes, to some extent, for sure. It is clear president s dating . Yes, to some extent, for sure. It is clear that i extent, for sure. It is clear that this letter has derailed to show some dissatisfaction of the Biden Administration. That does not want to be seen as giving shelter to an authoritarian leader, and also it speaks to the trauma of The Americans with january six as well. But it seems like the Biden Administration has been very careful to notjump ahead of the brazilian authorities that are working to investigate the case. President tallulah, the brazilian president who will be in washington, dc in february, he wasjust who will be in washington, dc in february, he was just invited by biden, and he will be in the city to discuss this topic with the American Government. {lilia discuss this topic with the American Government discuss this topic with the american covernment. ,. ,. Government. 0k, thank you very much for that. Government. 0k, thank you very much forthat peter. Government. 0k, thank you very much for that. Peter, you government. 0k, thank you very much for that. Peter, you are government. 0k, thank you very much for that. Peter, you are a government. 0k, thank you very much for that. Peter, you are a diplomat, i for that. Peter, you are a diplomat, you can see why washington wants to get rid of the situation because of the moments they appear to be providing safe harbour to a man who many say played a significant role behind what happened on sunday. Yes. Behind what happened on sunday. Yes, so ou can behind what happened on sunday. Yes, so you can feel behind what happened on sunday. Yes, so you can feel the behind what happened on sunday. Yes, so you can feel the embarrassment with the so you can feel the embarrassment with the way its being played in washington. They say history doesnt repeat washington. They say history doesnt repeat itself, but my goodness, this was a repeat itself, but my goodness, this was a copycat events, and im sure the biden was a copycat events, and im sure the Biden Administration will want to have the Biden Administration will want to have the best possible relationships with tallulah presidency in brazil and this is an embarrassment they could do without. So theyve embarrassment they could do without. So theyve got to find a way of sorting so theyve got to find a way of sorting it so theyve got to find a way of sorting it out fairly quickly. Has there been sorting it out fairly quickly. Has there been any sorting it out fairly quickly. Has there been any communication so far between brasilia, the government in brazil and the authorities in florida where the Governors Office is in florida . Is in florida . They are keeping tighttipped is in florida . They are keeping tightlipped about is in florida . They are keeping tightlipped about the is in florida . They are keeping| tightlipped about the situation tight lipped about the situation because of course the white house needs to be the one to take action and respond to this, so floridas government getting involved in this is going to be overreaching and overarching to the white houses response in the Department Response may be. Response in the Department Response ma be. ~ � , response in the Department Response ma be. � , may be. Weve ust seen some ictures may be. Weve ust seen some pictures of may be. Weve ust seen some pictures of the i may be. Weve just seen some pictures of the house may be. Weve just seen some pictures of the house in may be. Weve just seen some i pictures of the house in orlando, lots of supporters there. A lot of ex pat brazilians who live in florida and they tend to vote republican. Florida and they tend to vote republican republican. They are very conservative, republican. They are very conservative, and republican. They are very conservative, and as republican. They are very conservative, and as he l republican. They are very i conservative, and as he saw republican. They are very conservative, and as he saw with republican. They are very conservative, and as he saw with the reelection of Governor Desantis coming at a Market Number increase with all hispanic populations across the state of florida, including the Puerto Rican Population which typically vote democrat. So Puerto Rican Population which typically vote democrat. So we will not hear much typically vote democrat. So we will not hear much from ron typically vote democrat. So we will not hear much from ron on typically vote democrat. So we will not hear much from ron on this i typically vote democrat. So we will i not hear much from ron on this then . And we shouldnt because he would be opening over stepping his bounds in the State Department have not released their position from the white house as well. So in this country we have states rights and we have our tiered governments. And usually a governor will not overstep the bounds of a president or the federal government if it is their role and their position to make a statement or to take action. This a statement or to take action. As a former lieutenant statement or to take action. As a former Lieutenant Governor committee will have heard the feds are now involved taking a look at it, we have also heard from the january Six Committee today that they are prepared to lend their expertise, the expertise during their investigation to the government in brasilia. That investigation to the government in brasilia. �. Investigation to the government in brasilia. ,. , investigation to the government in brasilia. ,. ,. , investigation to the government in brasilia. ,. , brasilia. At this similar to january six, but it brasilia. At this similar to january six. But it is brasilia. At this similar to january six, but it is a brasilia. At this similar to january six, but it is a lot brasilia. At this similar to january six, but it is a lot more brasilia. At this similar to january six, but it is a lot more violent, i six, but it is a lot more violent, in the capturing of the videos that i saw with regards to that tearing down in the beating up of Law Enforcement and actions being taken which should be denounced by everyone from the top of our government and all governments as well as individuals in brazil and the organisations that have put that on is really doing a disservice to the country. On is really doing a disservice to the country on is really doing a disservice to the country. You are right, peter that there the country. You are right, peter that there are the country. You are right, peter that there are many the country. You are right, peter that there are many crossovers l the country. You are right, peter that there are many crossovers here. The one main difference is that Brazilian Society is deeply divided over president s lula, the men formerly imprisoned for corruption, and a very much support to Paul Scenario would like to see them return, and that is a very difficult predicament. Or do you see an opportunity here for president s lula. Opportunity here for president s lula. ,. , opportunity here for president s lula. , , opportunity here for president s lula. ,. ,. , lula. President s lula comes back to office with experience lula. President s lula comes back to office with experience of lula. President s lula comes back to office with experience of having i office with experience of having been office with experience of having been in office with experience of having been injailand office with experience of having been injail and having accounted for what been injail and having accounted for what went wrong in his first period. For what went wrong in his first period. So for what went wrong in his first period, so hes a more experienced man and period, so hes a more experienced man and one period, so hes a more experienced man and one assumes hes learned from man and one assumes hes learned from that man and one assumes hes learned from that. Brazil is very divided, although, from that. Brazil is very divided, although, i from that. Brazil is very divided, although, i think you would agree that america is pretty divided as well, that america is pretty divided as well, so that america is pretty divided as well, so it that america is pretty divided as well, so it is difficult to govern in these well, so it is difficult to govern in these extremely divided countries, and i think that lula has a problem countries, and i think that lula has a problem on his hands most certainly. A problem on his hands most certainly, but sex comes from the experience certainly, but sex comes from the experience of what hes been there in the experience of what hes been there in the last experience of what hes been there in the last four or five years. Gk, in the last four or five years. Ok, lets talk about in the last four or five years. iii, lets talk about another country becoming increasingly difficult to govern. The political debate in israel is rarely sedate. But this week politics has fractured to such a degree some are now warning of a civil war. It is barely two weeks since Benjamin Netenyahu returned to power, still facing trial forfraud, Breach Of Trust and bribery. His hard right coalition have courted plenty of controversy already, but nothing like what they are now proposing for the judiciary. According to a detailed plan released wednesday by the newjustice minister, yariv levin, the government intends to reduce the Supreme Courts power to revoke laws passed in parliament. By simple majority they would be able to overturn any Supreme Court rulings. If approved, mr levins proposal would also give the government greater influence over who gets to be a judge. Experts say it would remove all checks and balances over the executive and legislative branches, both of which are controlled by the ultra conservative coalition. Needless to say it has far reaching consequences for palestinians in the occupied west bank. I have been speaking with political analyst and regular panelist Dahlia Scheindlin who is in tel aviv. I think the only imbalance of power in israel is there would not be judicial review, which is essentially what the reform but this is strange to do, there would be unrestrained powerfor is strange to do, there would be unrestrained power for them is strange to do, there would be unrestrained powerfor them in unrestrained power for them in israel and unrestrained powerfor them in israel and the legislature which are not entirely separate because the executive is made up of a coalition which is the majority of the legislature before it has been a primary institution capable of Reviewing State Action and that is why there is an imbalance in the other direction. Its why there is an imbalance in the other direction. Other direction. Its an ultraconservative i other direction. Its an i ultraconservative preposition, other direction. Its an ultraconservative preposition, what does this mean for the implications for palestinians . For palestinians . While also israeli state sends for palestinians . While also israeli state sends commit for palestinians . While also israeli state sends commit i for palestinians . While also israeli state sends commit i think for palestinians . While also israeli state sends commit i think this i state sends commit i think this government wants to move ahead with Annexation Plans in some form. The first thing and they want to do is rebuild settlements, including settlements that have been dismantled in the past, but they would also like to be legislate the law that was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2020 that would essentially legalise settlements on private land, private Palestinian Land which the court has in the past rules. Its the only minor limitation that the court has put on israeli settlements in the west bank. By any means, whether its outright annexation, which some of the Coalition Members are talking about right now its by keeping annexation over settlements, the courts will not be able to push back against any of this. Irate courts will not be able to push back against any of this. Against any of this. We have had some pretty against any of this. We have had some pretty strident against any of this. We have had some pretty strident language, | against any of this. We have had i some pretty strident language, the Opposition Leaders that he feared the governments plan would lead to the governments plan would lead to the collapse of israeli democracy, the collapse of israeli democracy, the former Defence Minister warned of several more. They have been cause for civil disobedience. Where is it hatting . What is the threat to security and peace on the streets of israel . ~. , ,. , � , israel . Well, i honestly dont think there is a threat israel . Well, i honestly dont think there is a threat to israel . Well, i honestly dont think there is a threat to security i israel . Well, i honestly dont think there is a threat to security at i israel . Well, i honestly dont think there is a threat to security at the l there is a threat to security at the moment. In other words, we had big demonstrations on saturday evening, and another big one planned for this coming saturday evening. Its not just opposition political leaders. A lot of this opposition is coming from the public itself. I want to point out that a majority of the public by surveys in the last years have preferred that christ had Power Forjudicial Review and coming in an extraordinary statement just today from the chiefjustice of the Supreme Court and the Attorney General as well as former State Prosecutors and senior government advisers, law scholars, political scientists, i mean there has been an outcry from these reforms from many corners of society, certainly not a political battle. There will be lots of presents on the streets, certainly in the early stages as these unfold. They should not turn violent this is 100 peaceful because i know and i went to an observed and watched and i will also disclose that i was one of the political scientists who signed the petition against these reforms. And unless the police decide to take a very heavy hand or in less than a ministerfor national very heavy hand or in less than a minister for National Security who controls the police to decide to use a heavy hand minister of National Securities is a very extreme right wing figure, but i would like to think he has an interest in showing that he will not use force against demonstrators who have been up against demonstrators who have been up until now manifesting peacefully. United states has enormous leverage of israel, but then the money in the political backing is somewhat contributing to where we are today. How likely is that that the Israeli Government would respond to any political pressure from the white house . If political pressure from the white house . ,. , political pressure from the white house . , house . If there was real political ressure house . If there was real political pressure backed house . If there was real political pressure backed up house . If there was real political pressure backed up with house . If there was real political pressure backed up with some i house . If there was real political pressure backed up with some serious policy related, then i can imagine that the government would be listening to that, Benjamin Netanyahu prides himself on having excellent foreign relations, and a bipartisan basis with the white house, but i have to say i dont see see signs of that, israel from the us giving interviews this week on which he was really remarkably elusive about anything like that. He said he was certainly not our business to tell israel how to deal with itsjudicial business to tell israel how to deal with its judicial reforms. Business to tell israel how to deal with itsjudicial reforms. He got out of any question whether the us would have anything to say about that, and i have a feeling that he reflects a very restrained attitude on the part of the American Government because for the meantime they have been coming to the extent that theyve even opened up the issue, the question ofjudicial reform is an internal domestic issue which it would be if israels policy did not affect people well beyond. We will talk about that in the wider region and a second, peter, how concerned are you about the direction of travel in israel . I are you about the direction of travel in israel . Travel in israel . I think its worrying travel in israel . I think its worrying to travel in israel . I think its worrying to hear travel in israel . I think its worrying to hear this i travel in israel . I think its worrying to hear this level| travel in israel . I think its l worrying to hear this level of division worrying to hear this level of division so soon into the government. Israel, like the uk, has no written government. Israel, like the uk, has no written constitution. Just as in the uk, no written constitution. Just as in the uk, this no written constitution. Just as in the uk, this can change the lot which the uk, this can change the lot which dramatically affects and showing a degree of restraint, the government to put the power of the parliament. Its also interesting to see that parliament. Its also interesting to see that other countries with extreme see that other countries with extreme conservative governments like poland, president and one in turkey like poland, president and one in turkey have also been going after judicial turkey have also been going after Judicial Independence and indeed your borisjohnson got Judicial Independence and indeed your Boris Johnson got very angry with the your Boris Johnson got very angry with the Supreme Court here when it ruled with the Supreme Court here when it ruled against him two or three years ao ruled against him two or three years ago on ruled against him two or three years ago on the ruled against him two or three years ago on the prorogation of parliament. There is always temptation when governments are criticised temptation when governments are criticised by the Supreme Court to try and criticised by the Supreme Court to try and move against them. It is dangerous, try and move against them. It is dangerous, clearly, but israel is a vibrant dangerous, clearly, but israel is a vibrant democracy, kind of debate that we vibrant democracy, kind of debate that we just heard about it is surely that we just heard about it is surely going to give pause to the benjamin surely going to give pause to the Benjamin Netanyahu before he goes too far Benjamin Netanyahu before he goes too far and starts his period with a really too far and starts his period with a really major unrest in israel. Governments of the same colour do tend to take their cues from one another. With that in mind, behold israel up as the only democracy in the middle east as a shining example for the rest, if the government from the outside looks to becoming more autocratic, what sort of effect does that happen to be ten . You autocratic, what sort of effect does that happen to be ten . That happen to be ten . You know, benamin that happen to be ten . You know, Benjamin Netanyahu that happen to be ten . You know, Benjamin Netanyahu has that happen to be ten . You know, Benjamin Netanyahu has not i that happen to be ten . You know, l Benjamin Netanyahu has not always been easy Benjamin Netanyahu has not always been easy for them to have for the uk or been easy for them to have for the uk or other been easy for them to have for the uk or other western countries and some uk or other western countries and some of uk or other western countries and some of these parties in israel, britain some of these parties in israel, britain also has important interest in the britain also has important interest in the gulf, and other parts of the middle in the gulf, and other parts of the middle east, so i dont think london are going middle east, so i dont think london are going to middle east, so i dont think london are going to be particularly vocal either. Are going to be particularly vocal either, but we certainly dont want to see either, but we certainly dont want to see information problems on the west bank to see information problems on the west bank or in gaza. This Israeli Government into making things more difficult government into making things more difficult in government into making things more difficult in the middle east at a time difficult in the middle east at a time when weve got massive pressure and were time when weve got massive pressure and were in time when weve got massive pressure and were in europe, confrontation with china and were in europe, confrontation with china to deal with. So im sure people with china to deal with. So im sure people wont want Benjamin Netanyahu to be pushing the pressures and israel to be pushing the pressures and israel into to be pushing the pressures and israel into them more aggressive foreign israel into them more aggressive Foreign Policy and hope that behind the scenes voices are telling him to avoid the scenes voices are telling him to avoid that the scenes voices are telling him to avoid that. G �. Avoid that. Jennifer, in america, udaes avoid that. Jennifer, in america, judges are avoid that. Jennifer, in america, judges are politically avoid that. Jennifer, in america, judges are politically appointed l avoid that. Jennifer, in america, i judges are politically appointed and no one has a problem with that in the United States, but then you look at Public Opinion with regards to the Supreme Courts, it is diminished. Ayn rand respects to that, doesnt always lead to good law. ~. ,. , that, doesnt always lead to good law. ~. ,. ,. , law. Well, and we had that 3tiered government law. Well, and we had that 3tiered government here where law. Well, and we had that 3tiered government here where we law. Well, and we had that 3tiered government here where we have i law. Well, and we had that 3tiered | government here where we have the judicial term of the executive and the legislative, and all on that judicial side should just be interpreting the law that a legislative slide has put in place. We hope never to interfere with that balance of power because otherwise if a law is unconstitutional and we have political appointees that are taking a position and decide for political parties, then we are not going to get the constitutionality of the law. Going to get the constitutionality of the law. ,. , � ~ of the law. You dont think the balance has of the law. You dont think the balance has been of the law. You dont think the balance has been upset i of the law. You dont think the balance has been upset in i of the law. You dont think the balance has been upset in the| balance has been upset in the Supreme Courts . I balance has been upset in the Supreme Courts . Balance has been upset in the Supreme Courts . I dont believe its been upset. Supreme courts . I dont believe its been upset. I Supreme Courts . I dont believe its been upset. I would Supreme Courts . I dont believe its been upset. I would venturel Supreme Courts . I dont believe i its been upset. I would venture to say that for the most part, the Supreme Courtjustice says have ruled more on the side of the constitution and how the law was written. Yes, weve had instances where likejustice roberts has ruled and people would assume that it was on a political side, one side of the other that hes taken, but i say for the most part for the nine justices, they tend to give their reasoning and theyve written a paper as an dissensions based on what the lot has stated and how the law was written and how the constitution applies to that law. Irate written and how the constitution applies to that law. Written and how the constitution applies to that law. We believe that there. Applies to that law. We believe that there some applies to that law. We believe that there. Some people applies to that law. We believe that there. Some people might applies to that law. We believe that there. Some people might disagreej there. Some people might disagree with you, i have seen the polling. We believe it there for now. It is nothing new in politics. It has all been tried before. But if you want sth that is shiny and new. How about this. A new planet. Just like that. Courtesy of the james Webb Telescope the giant space observatory, which is staring deep into the cosmos. And for the first has identified an exoplanet. Thats a planet that orbits another star. Its formally known as lhs 475 b not the catchiest name i have ever heard but it is almost exactly the same size of the rock we live on, 99 of the earths diameter. This i should stress is only an illustrations. Nasa says it is relatively close, just 41 light years away which is. 369 trillion kilometres. I will let you add that to your summer plans. Time for the panel. Writes, jennifer, we want to talk about immigration, of course you want to talk about immigration, youre from florida, it is a major issue for states along the border with mexico. Can we specifically address and target to watchjoe biden proposed that to summit in mexico this week, and that there is a virtual platform to help migraines applying to mexico come the United States, canada through legal channels. Do you think that will stop people coming through the route to people smuggling . Flat stop people coming through the route to people smuggling . To people smuggling . Not at all, because it is to people smuggling . Not at all, because it is big to people smuggling . Not at all, because it is big money to people smuggling . Not at all, because it is big money for i because it is big money for smugglers, particularly in the southern border. In the state of florida, recently, we see more migrants coming in from cuba as well as haiti into our Southern Shores in florida. And what the administration has done is made it almost open borderfor anyone who has done is made it almost open border for anyone who wants to, and and without recourse because the individuals that are coming particularly on the southern border, they are given a pass and say come back here to your arraignment somewhere down the line and these people never show up, but i think it is a larger problem that the farmers and probably some Big Companies who want cheap labour dont mind the open borders. Why is such an open doorfor the open borders. Why is such an open door for the administration to have anybody walk in without a process. I am an immigrant to this country. My parents and i, we came here many years el we came to the Legal Process. Many people waiting ten or 15 years through the Legal Process to get their documentation to be a legal citizen and are come in with their green card. Therefore we should not have people coming across an open door in the southern part or anywhere else, and circumvent those people that have paid their money in front of the system legally. I truly believe it comes to a labour problem that people are turning a blind eye to this. ,. , ~ that people are turning a blind eye to this. ,. ,. , that people are turning a blind eye to this. ,. , 4. , that people are turning a blind eye to this. ,. , ~. ,. , to this. Look, there are many of those things to this. Look, there are many of those things which to this. Look, there are many of those things which are to this. Look, there are many of those things which are familiar. To this. Look, there are many of. Those things which are familiar to us in the uk, particularly about resourcing and all the rest of it. Immigration reform they have to come up Immigration Reform they have to come up with something in this congress. Is this the best shot at it . If not now than when. No one ever talks to the current process and whats wrong with that. When we were going through the immigration process as it took too long and it was too costly. And that is a problem, something that the congress can look at. We have over a Million People that come into the country legally from amnesty, etc, but i think that the Congress Needs to look at is the Current System and what needs to change for the process to go through. We believe that they are in because i want to talk to you, since you are in france about the announcement yesterday, the first summit since 2018, can you believe that, four years since uk Prime Minister met with the french president. That will happen in march, how important is that . It is march, how important is that . It is important march, how important is that . It is important. Havent had a summit meeting important. Havent had a summit meeting for four years, it shows how bad relations have been, barely as bad relations have been, barely as bad as bad relations have been, barely as bad as i bad relations have been, barely as bad as i can bad relations have been, barely as bad as i can remember in my experience partly over brexit and various experience partly over brexit and various other irritants. Part the way various other irritants. Part the way that various other irritants. Part the way that borisjohnson played the relationship for political laughs to avoid relationship for political laughs to avoid it relationship for political laughs to avoid it. Now we have a Prime Minister avoid it. Now we have a Prime Minister and the avoid it. Now we have a Prime Ministerand the war avoid it. Now we have a Prime Minister and the war in europe both sides minister and the war in europe both sides want minister and the war in europe both sides want to get the relationship back on sides want to get the relationship back on the rails so we have a summit back on the rails so we have a summit meeting, i hope it will produce summit meeting, i hope it will produce the new projects that will help to produce the new projects that will help to push the relationship forward help to push the relationship forward in defence and energy and beyond forward in defence and energy and beyond that, we have the prospects not yet beyond that, we have the prospects not yet confirmed of king charles making not yet confirmed of king charles making his first state to france, probably making his first state to france, probably at the end of march, so its strongly rumoured that that will be its strongly rumoured that that will be a its strongly rumoured that that will be a tremendous boost to the relationship given how much affection there is to the royal family affection there is to the royal family in affection there is to the royal family in france. So it looks like things family in france. So it looks like things are family in france. So it looks like things are better. It family in france. So it looks like things are better. Things are better. It was interesting, things are better. It was interesting, you things are better. It was interesting, you were i things are better. It was i interesting, you were saying things are better. It was interesting, you were saying their armour compatible because they are from a financial background stop at a different style, much closer style than ever with borisjohnson, politically though, very different. Rishi sunak is a serious politician, respectful, quite a good fit for macron in terms of his style. Ok, since you are there in france, i know that at this time of the year, whenever i was invited. Laughter whenever i was invited to franks house at this time of year, it is. Explain what that is. I house at this time of year, it is. Explain what that is. Explain what that is. 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The weather is likely to cause a few problems over the next few days, for different reasons. We start off with the rain weve seeing over recent days, causing the problems, with flooding that weve seen across parts of england and wales, roads turning into rivers in places. Weve seen some disruption on the railways across the south of wales as well. And with Flood Warnings continuing to be in force into friday, well, expect further disruption. I think the main message is check before heading out on any lengthy journeys. Now, looking at the satellite picture, this was the cloud that brought that heavy rain across england and wales during thursday, but our next area of concern is this area of low pressure thats developing just off the coast of the United States, thats going to come through on friday night. Friday itself, still a blustery kind of day, a day of sunny spells and passing showers, but some heavier rain working into Western Areas of scotland and north west england for a time. Temperatures still on the mild side, 11 degrees celsius across parts of southern england, southern wales, thats about four degrees above average for this stage of january. Its friday night that we see that area of low pressure that i showed you push this big pulse of heavy rain across england and wales, the rain working across areas that already have Flood Warnings in force, so, you can imagine the flooding is likely to get worse for some communities before it gets better, as we head into this weekend. Now, this weekend weather wise, it is an improving picture, to a degrees, the worst of the rain will clear through, but it will be followed by blustery showers, with the weather gradually turning colder through the weekend. Saturday, then, rain to start off with, risk of flooding. Then comes a zone of stronger winds, with some blustery showers working into Northern Ireland, across parts of scotland, north west england, too. Still mild across the south east, 12 degrees in london, but were starting to see the air turning a bit colder across northern scotland, and indeed, that continues to be the trend into sunday. Its a day of sunny spells and passing showers, but those showers increasingly turning to snow across northern scotland, where the air continues to get colder as the winds switch round more to a north, north westerly direction. And as we head through the afternoon, there will be parts of scotland where temperatures struggle to get much above freezing. A sign of things to come, for sure, because as we head into next week, weve got much Colder Weather conditions on the way, and those colder, north, north westerly winds will bring quite a few snow showers, even pushing all the way down to sea level. Now, there is still some uncertainties in the forecast, but what we know about next week, much Colder Weather is on the way. We will get widespread frosts, with some icy patches to watch out for, and we are going to see snow showers coming all the way down to those low elevations, but some places will miss out, for example, across central and central southern england on monday. That would be a favoured place for staying dry and sunny, but even if you stay fine and sunny, whatever, it is going to be cold, with temperatures much, much lower than theyve been over recent days. Now, the real uncertainty builds on tuesday. One scenario is we have quite a weak area of low pressure that could bring falls of inland snow, showers, really, but there could be some accumulations in places, but another more threatening scenario, probably a less likely scenario, is that we see a more developed area of low pressure. That could bring a zone of much stronger winds, but also the risk of some heavy, disruptive snowfall. I must emphasise, there is a lot of uncertainty about that kind of weather picture, but clearly its something well be watching very carefully over the next few days. Join me tomorrow, ill take another look. Tonight at ten. The nhs in england breaks new records for ambulance delays and waits in accident and emergency. Ambulances took an average of 90 minutes to reach Emergency Calls for suspected heart attacks and strokes the target is 18 minutes. And well be reporting from the royal bolton hospital, where patients are waiting hours for Emergency Care, and staff are overwhelmed. The last six, 12 months, have been more challenging than ive ever known in the time ive worked here. The latest figures have exposed the Alarming State of Emergency Care in the national Health Service. Also tonight. Following the discovery of classified documents at President Bidens home, an independent investigation is launched