been done that suggests you could have 3 to 5 million people vote illegally in this country. millions and millions and millions. over 5 million people on the rolls in this country that shouldn t be on the roll. 1 in 8. people having multiple registrations have been found but there s been never a follow through of any commitment. that doesn t equate. it s very hard to do by the way. very hard to do. to your point, here s what they should do, rick. i think absolutely look into how you clean up the voter rolls but don t spend public funds on investigating whether 3 to 5 million illegals are voting or made the difference in this election. that is a waste of public funds. what he should do is clean up the voter rolls in every state. that will be productive. and maybe he lost the popular vote which he did. i agree that the focus of the
program, end sangt aair cities, triple i.c.e. enforcement agents. i think what he s saying is countries like yemen, somalia, iraq, iran will not be able to come into this country. how do you define it? those would be the easy ones, although plenty of good people from there trying to travel for legitimate reasons. how do you not put france on that list? i haven t been running to yemen recently to deal with terror, but i have been to france a bunch. the truth is there are people in yemen whose lives are at risk because of what s going on there. we re here in new york city. this is a country of give me your tired, your poor. i understand the american people want security. i want security. trying to have some kind of broad ban, you re taking small steps towards something that is incredibly undemocratic, to go back to the beginning of this conversation. quite frankly, it s not clear what the rules are.
this executive order is just the first step in what we think will be a series of steps to really say our doors are closed to everybody else and there isn t a single person in this country except native americans, indians, who are native to this country. we are all immigrants. what do you think the ripple effect of that is on our reputation? what he said in his inaugural address is basically make the ufrmt s. an aspirational country, make people see it as a beacon so they want to emulate it. but by closing the doors, not everybody, obviously, will get a taste of that. how do you think other countries i think other countries are going to say, as we heard theresa may say this morning, if there s going to be a u.s.-u.k. trade deal, it s going to be britain first. i think everyone will trout what donald trump has said, we re going to take care of ourselves and not anybody else, and the generosity of the american people, what we stand for, that
voter i.d. in this country. we do have a responsible system and accountable system of voting and as someone that lost the iowa caucus vote by 8 votes i can tell you that every single vote matters on election day. right. you can say that all the votes that came in against you are why you lost because you didn t have any proof to say that, right? i m not defending his statement. he lost the election. that s why we have these good discussions but you did excuse it right off the bat. i came back at you to make you talk about this specific issue and then you said it but your inclination was to defend it by deflecting it into something more simple. my inclination was very clear. i wasn t going to defend he lost the election by voter fraud but i said the potential exists for him to do so and i cited the study in new york where 97% of the people there s no study that s ever
the world looks to the united states as the strongest democracy in the world. we go all over the world urging people to create a system that allows their people to have a voice. when the women s march happened last saturday, there were similar marches all over the world because there s a sense of solidarity and purpose. so when the president of the united states questions his own legitimacy, not others, but questions his own legitimacy by saying there was voter fraud, then we re giving license to authoritarian leaders all over the rest of the world to say that the united states isn t such a great country, isn t a strong democracy, that their authoritarianism isn t the right way to go. it undermines ourselves. i don t understand why he s heading down this world. it s not speculative. during the election vladimir putin said we are willing to send election monitors to the united states. he was picking up on what trump was saying then.