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he wants to take this. i think it always has been an issue for republicans. he doesn t necessarily have to make it an issue for them. he certainly isn t standing for re-election. i think he already won the political fight in 2012. so now it is about his legacy and whether or not he can get this big grand bargain around immigration. howard, how do we get beyond the triggers that differs between the senate s plan and the president s plan? how do you prove the borders are now secure? right. that s the practical difficulty in all this. and it s one thing to go out and say let s do it when we secure the border. the question is how you measure it, how you achieve that. do you put troops down there? do you have drones flying overhead? what statistics will you use and so forth? but the larger issue is the sequence. when it s clear that people are going to be on that path to citizenship that the president discussed. only after some kind of security is enforced and proved or not?
so i think the president is going to have to lay out some arguments about what he s going to do. and i think for governor romney, one particular chance for him is to make the case to link what we do abroad with what s going on at home. and to make the argument the biggest national security challenge facial the united states is not iran, is not libya, not china, it s us. and what we need to do is get our economy right. i have spoken to governor romney a couple times on this issue. i have spoken to his surrogates on this specific issue and that is mubarak. mitt romney has been critical of the arab spring how the u.s. handled it. generally says the president isn t standing close enough with aural lie. i said specifically do you believe he made a mistake with mubar mubarak. they never answer the question. do you get the sense that the president might not have pushed the door? my own view, we made a mistake in pushing mubarak. you do think i do think so. the i think the trends wer
teachers, adults, everybody across the board. i want to make a point here. that the tea party is the other 99% as well. a lot of republicans have done a major disservice by fox news. they re a destructive force in society. and the republican party is 49% of the 99%. i want to have this conversation with libertarians, tea partyers, independents, moderates, everybody should be in on this conversation. and it s no surprise to me that fox news just does not want to have an honest conversation. jesse, good to have you with us. keep up the good work. republicans are stalling economic progress by holding up a payroll tax cut in congress. the president isn t standing for it. bernie sanders, he s got opinions on it next. stay with us. it s nice to see you in my bed there are diamonds in her eyes and they sparkle in the night when the moment comes alive [ male announcer ] this is your moment.
been so ungracious in their comments. i mean, you know, there s also an argument here to be made that, look at when we got accomplished in libya. it was less expensive than iraq, it was more effective than iraq, and no loss of american life, like we saw in iraq. goldie, as a former marine, can i ask you what it would feel like if you were in the field, hearing that your president, your commander in chief, was opposed by this republican house, the majority in the house, in this way? how would it feel as a soldier? well, if i m a soldier or a marine or a sailor and i m out in the field and look back at home and find my own u.s. congress isn t standing behind me, that does something for my morale. so applause for this president for doing every single one of our troops home. we lost far too many lives and i m glad to see that they re going to be home for this christmas. i ve got to say, when i see them in the airports, you know, new recruits coming from basic training, you know, it war