trump lied about both of those things on an incredibly important subject. because they didn t they wanted to spend the money to help donald trump get elected president and they wanted to keep secret how they were spending the money, because the public might not have liked $280,000 spent in hush money for women that donald trump apparently slept with. that s what happened here. that s absolutely right. and that s a crime. but tell me no, let s stop there. it s a crime under certain circumstances. it s not a crime under other circumstances. a president would have the right to do the following. he d have the right to pay the hush money, keep it secret until the next reporting time, which may be after the election, direct his lawyer to pay the money, none of that would be a crime. but he didn t do that. i mean it s very interesting, but that s not what happened. we don t know what he did. you say that cohen committed a crime. yeah, so does cohen.
of all, but second of all, failure to report is a crime against the campaign, not against the candidate. you show me any case where a person was actually charged criminally and sentenced to prison for failure to report and entirely lawful campaign contribution. alan, i don t have a lot of this is taking existing laws and targeting somebody who none of us likes and who none of us voted for, and that s the most dangerous thing you can do in the criminal law, stretch it to target somebody who is unpopular with those who are doing the stretching. that s what it s a heartbreaking treatment of donald trump, who is so sympathetic it s not heartbreaking to him jeff, nobody has forced the president of the united states to repeatedly lie about this time and time again, to lie but it s not a crime. i m not saying it s a crime. i m just saying i m only saying i m talking now, and i m saying it s really sleazy. it s sleazy that michael cohen
and i like the issue for election, too. our issue is strong borders, no crime. their issue is open borders, let ms-13 all over our country. that s what s going to happen if you listen to them. welcome back to a special edition of am joy. we are bringing you two more hours from torneo, texas. hundreds of people are going to gather. they re gathering justice for immigrants. one of the many rallies pushing back on the deeply popular, shocking quite frankly immigration policies of donald trump. on saturday the department of homeland security released a fact sheet saying that of the more than 2,000 kids in custody, 522 of them, they say, have been reunited with their parents.
rapists, they re murderers. that s what he s still selling. it s the only thing he can sell to that racist base of his, and that s what he s been doing. he started his political career saying obama was not a legitimate president. this is all a reaction, the people who support him are frightened to death of this country becoming the browning of america. it s about immigration. it s about people coming together. we ve been doing this for hundreds of years. it helps the country. it makes the country stronger. we need immigrants to help boost our economy and everybody knows that. yeah. this is xenophobia, pure and simple. and crime is lower where there s groups. absolutely. so everything that he s been saying is a lie. he lies about everything and higgs base agrees with him. yeah. and fox propagates it and that s it. 40% of the people believe that. we re here in el paso which is one of the safest cities in america. yes. mexico is literally right
here we have to bear witness to it, the only way we fix it is through members of congress and this administration. you can see i don t know if we can get a wide shot of it. this is the border. mexico is right there. as a former mayor of a city here in texas, just give people a sense of scale because the perception that we re getting out of the trump administration is that there is almost a barrage, a constant torrent of people flooding into the country. this other perception that he fans the flames is that somehow that these cities like el paso on the american side are runover with crime. el paso makes clear all the time is one of the safest big cities in the united states. it s got about 650,000 folks and it consistently ranks as one of the safest big cities and it butts up against the border, basically. can you tell us more about how people can contact the human rights organization that you re working with? i work with robert f. kennedy