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it will take time to develop and require boots on the ground to develop it. these isis fighters are very skillful. they don t use cell phones that much. you need people on the ground in contact with the iraqi military that s opposing them in order to gain the kind of intelligence from the locals who would know what isis is up to. but this is going to require the iraqi tribes to come on board because they re the ones that really could put a dent in the isis juggernaut right now. and do you believe, phil, that the united states has any sense of what isis is really about or what they re going to do? we heard barbara reporting on the current assessment from the u.s. intelligence. isis isn t going to risk an all-out war. but then you see car bomb after car bomb after car bomb in market after market after market. i think we have a sense of what they re about, but in the intelligence business, you have to differentiate two fundamental points. first is capability, how many of them are th
how they spend that money, it is how they support people. things like food and medicine so people start to say, isis isn t just a terror group that looks better than al-maliki, it is a group delivering governance. how likely it is that you think they doll that? groups come in where the governments have been unable to do that, and they ve done that. basic education. basic services. basic food. and they get the hearts and minds. i think the real story is not whether isis takes land. there is one group, most successful terror group on the planet that did it extremely well. that s lebanese hezbollah. the question isn t whether they take an oil refinery. it is, are they so harsh in their imposition of islamic law, so willing to spend money on weapons but not food that they lose sut port they have today. when they do that, by definition would they become more tame?
iraq or the awake neng members have join the in the fight. you spent five years in iraq serving there with general petraeus among others. here s what the kurdish, regional kurdish president massoud barzani told our christiane amanpour today. we haven t remain hostages for the unknown. the time is here for the kurdistan people to determine their future and the decision of the people is what we re going to uphold. are we on the verge of seeing a partition of iraq into a kurdish autonomous area, a sunni and shia area? i think we re on the verge of that unless strong measures are taken not only by the united states but the international community to shape a change in government towards a you know aught government and try to put this back together again. part of this has to be reaching out to the sunni eric community and driving a wedge between moderate sunni arabs and isis. you say isis really the heart of isis isn t in the iraq but
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