is asking a foreign country to investigate a political opponent, yes or no, is that foreign policy? i haven t seen that. i ve seen donald trump investigate corruption where joe biden was holding up money to have a prosecutor fired who s investigating his son in the ukraine. that s wrong. i do commend people to go read bill taylor s opening statement and then go back and read the rough transcript from president trump s call to president zelensky where he asks president zelensky to investigate joe biden. sean duffy, charlie dent, this was a great conversation. thanks for being with us this morning. interesting debate, john. very interesting to hear both sides there. meanwhile, my specialty, sports. the astros and the mlb addressing a controversy inside the clubhouse. this was after a team executive berated a group of female reporters. wait until you hear what he said. wait until you hear his sort of apology. i m off to college. i m worried about my parents retirement. don t worr
were trying to write about just how difficult it is to kind of accept that assertion of obje obliviousness in this case given how many red flags there were swirling all around the vice president while he s delivering these messages, these powerful and important messages to this new leader in ukraine. and obliviousness is the perfect word, because if you take what pence said in the tape we played, you have to believe that he didn t know that when he said investigate corruption, what zelensky heard was investigate biden. is that your understanding of pence s position today? i think that is pence s position. and i ve had many senior officials, including senior officials in this administration, say they find it highly implausible that pence didn t read the transcript of that july 25th call between trump and zelensky before pence then goes off to meet with
how many flags there were swirling all around the vice president while he s delivering these messages, these powerful and important messages to this new leader in ukraine. and obliviousness is the perfect word, because if you take what pence said in the tape we played, you have to believe that he didn t know that when he said investigate corruption, what zelensky heard was investigate biden. is that your understanding of pence s position today? i think that is pence s position. and i ve had many senior officials, including senior officials in this administration, say they find it highly implausible that pence didn t read the transcript of that july 25th call between trump and zelensky before pence then goes off to meet with zelensky. it would border on malpractice for him not to do that when he s meeting a new leader, with a such a thin resume at that point, frankly, that zelensky had. you would want to know if you were vice president of the
if you could speak to him, that would be great. that would raise accusations that giuliani was aking as an improper person in the state department. giuliani says no way. he was helping investigate corruption and he has a paper trail that proves it including a statement of a meeting. i went to meet mr. zelensky s aide at the state department. 15 memos, to make that clear. reporter: the statement says mr. giuliani is a private citizen and acts in a personal capacity as a lawyer for president trump. he does not speak on behalf of the u.s. government, but he has spoken for him several times. attacking his foes, dismissing his critics. the president calls him a loyal ally. rudy s a very straight shooter. reporter: his critics call
i m a whistleblower. reporter: why is president trump s personal lawyer now all worked up? it comes during the call between president trump and zelensky. rudy giuliani s name comes up repeatedly, as trump asking for foreign help investigating joe biden. rudy knows what s going on. if you can speak to him, that would be great. that would raise acquisitions that giuliani was acting as an improper agent of the state department. giuliani says no way he was helping investigate corruption. and he has a paper trail that proves it. including a text message of a state department personnel making a meeting. the state department says, mr. giuliani is a private citizen and acts in a personal capacity as a lawyer for