information that they ve put together as the definitive narrative of that period of time in american history a because they want to make sure that it goes on the record so that something like this doesn t happen again. ryan, i apologize for interrupting you there briefly. there was something in my ear that was telling me something had just happened, and i thought, oh, my god, they ve just dropped it. i heard the committee has dropped and i went, wait, what? it turns out they have dropped five new transcripts in the time you ve been talking. yes, i see it now. there it is. that s that little belch of mine, wasn t literally a belch, so we got some more transcripts. when we find out the identities of them, maybe someone in the control room can tell me who they are. i can tell you, chris krebs, stephen ayers, mark esper, ken cla cow ski, and sarah matthews who s of course one of the other staffers from inside the west wing in the oval office during that period of time. so klukows
inept and unsophisticated and underresourced and couldn t do it or it s because they chose not to. i think the reporting that s come out that they audited obama and then they audited biden, but there s this weird gap when a man who has x tons the amount of money and more complexity than either obama or biden doesn t get audited suggests that it was a choice. but i think we ll have to find out more about that. i think, you know, the mandated audits got put in place in the wake of watergate to make automatic audits a kind of function of good government so it wasn t left up to individuals inside the irs to decide to do this. so you could try to a certain extent depoliticize it, as long as it was automatic, it didn t matter who was in the oval office. and yet, it didn t get triggered for trump. so that smells, and we need to get more information about it. i think the other you know, when you dive into this as well as sue pointed out, all the back
that the justice department is very interested in that. so i think we ll see more evidence in this report. that s one of the things i noticed yesterday. another was calls there was evidence from some of the witnesses about calling state officials to try to say stop the count on election day. so you can see this type of interference going on with elections from these pro-trump allies. ari, you re a lawyer and a political analyst and someone who looks at this in the most careful way of the network. day-to-day basis no one has been on this more than you. we are in the position right now waiting for the documents we want to see. there are many things important about this committee. policy implications that extend long beyond donald trump, nothing to do with donald trump, about national security, how to secure the government make sure another insurrection doesn t happen in the future. but in the end, the question of donald trump s criminality and
i think it is important to characterize this as it was. it was a riot. it was a dangerous riot, a violent one. it should never have happened and never happen again. of course the definition of insurrection doesn t hinge on whether an insurrection would succeed. thanks to the findings of the january 6 committee and a steady stream of reporting we know team trump mounted a coordinated effort to disrupt one of the central pillars of our political system. the peaceful transfer of power. they put intense pressure on officials all over the country at the federal, state, and local levels to try and secure a second trump term. the latest revelation that trump s lawyer rudy guiliani reportedly asked a michigan prosecutor to seize voting machines and hand them over to the trump campaign. from the washington post, antrim county, michigan prosecutor said in an interview guiliani and several colleagues made the requests during a telephone call after the county
insurrection doesn t fit with god s word. so we are to be servants in the culture and trust that god will raise us up for the purpose of having influence in the culture. one last thing i want to ask you, and i could continue this conversation for quite a while. but in terms of understanding what the bible says, there s been research including from the pew research center in terms of who has the best general knowledge about the abrahamic faiths, christianity, judaism, islam, and it found people with the most knowledge tend to be jewish or atheists or agnostics. that people who are actually practitioners of christianity tend not to have the strongest general knowledge. also there s a bible verse that keeps standing out to be from 1 peter that says believers should always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have, but to do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience. pastor litton, before i let you go, i have e