he goes down and he is a sure loser. but the point that john made that is important, a state like pennsylvania which i believe we all 2409 was out all thought was out of reach, they have had problems with romney, and all polls show there is no money there, that is a big state. gregg: i am told you are interested in iowa and wisconsin, and now here the nbc polls. obama has substantial lead plus eight in iowa and plus six in wisconsin. pat is laughing. because he has had a consistent problem with this particular polling arrangement with the wall street journal and nbc. there is a ppppolling company that skews lost, and they have a one-point lead. pat: the private data i show
business network. are you going to start christmas shopping, for us, right new? gregg: i am so way ahead of you. last week i out and got all the pictures for the christmas card and i will order the christmas cards this week. heather: what does that have to do with me? gregg: would you like to be in our family christmas card this year? guest: you can photo shop it. gregg: from christmas to halloween arguably the second most favorite holiday, the drought that has gripped the midwest this year is having a major impact on pumpkins. there are still plenty of pumpkins to go around but the lack of rain is making the pumpkins. smaller than usual. that s okay. that means finding the perfect pumpkin could be a little bit more difficult and cost you a bit more money. heather: some of those look
witnesses say the spa is near the law and described the shooting where it happened like this at 11 a.m. we saw a woman crawl from the front door and roll down the hill. she was scooped up by the cops and we heard a loud yell and then ten left the building screaming. swat team negotiator and command staff and victim specialists are helping with the response. we are told by the police chief that seven people were injured, and four transported to the hospital. three victims have died as a result of the shooting. a temporary restraining order was issued against the suspect on october 8 because of a domestic abuse complaint. gregg: thank you.
tinge of people from all walks of life including marianne co from syracuse, new york. and mohawk woman who died at age 24 after converting to catholicism. he is first native american elevated to sainthood. heather: what happened if you don t want to vote for either presidential candidate? you still want to have your voice heard. voters in one battleground state they have found a solution. gregg: the unemployment rate is supposed to tell us just how well the economy is doing these days. does it tell the whole story? a piece of the puzzle that may predict the jobs picture once from now. heather: and o.j. simpson serving up to 33 years for armed robbery, could he soon be a free man and will he take the witness
the state could turn for romney with little campaigning. we do not see the candidates in minnesota. gregg: now, the gallup poll on approval numbers. the president s gallup number is plus four points just posed rasmussen and he is underwater, negative two points. what do you make of this? doug: i would take the approval number in both polls, at 49. that is about the level i would hypothesize and pat would probably agree that the incumbent will get. if the incumbent gets 49 and governor romney gets almost 99 percent of outstanding vote, we are in a very, very close election so while the two polls are dispratt disparate, i draw the same conclusion. pat: i have said if the approval obama is at a critical inpositive.