good to be with you. i m katy tur. all eyes are on lower manhattan where five women and seven men are in their eighth hour of deliberations, tasked with deciding whether donald trump is guilty of a cover up to interfere with the 2016 election. this morning, the jurors asked the court for a second hearing of key testimony. the descriptions from both michael cohen and david pecker about the 2015 trump tower meeting where the three men agreed to work together to promote and protect donald trump in the press. from pecker, quote, at that meeting, donald trump and michael, they asked me what i can do and what my magazine could do to help the campaign. i said what i would do is i would run or publish positive stories about mr. trump, and i would publish negative stories about his opponents. i said i would be your eyes and ears. if i hear anything negative or hear anything about women selling stories, i would notify michael cohen. this from michael cohen s testimony, quote, what he,
build on it. including public defenders. for people who have served time, i believe that they should be able to vote. i belief that we should extend the franchise to people who are incars rated as long as they have not committed a felony. mike: are they good ideas? secretary castro is right. let s remember this, 2.2 million folks incarcerated but many are under state law. 2.3 million, under state laws, with state governors. texas, florida, in georgia, mississippi, alabama, louisiana. and those state governors are the would bes that are tightening the screws and making this thing impossible. let s take florida, where ron dose santos, even after the people in florida voted to restore voting rights he said you have to pay all these fees and fines to get your right to vote, which is a poll tax on
judges have is quite important. i think it s crucial that judges are able to hand down sentences that are below the sentencing guidelines. i think we saw this sort of terrible effects that mandatory minimums vld across the country, so what i m hoping doesn t come out of this conversation is a demand for across-the-board regulation, the same way that mandatory minimums came out of not conversations like this but similar conversations around crime and its negative impacts more generally. so i think, you know, sort of the judge aside, in terms of how we re discussing this question, in terms of what we re demanding going forward, i think, you know, felipe makes a good point that a focus on perhaps higher penalties for white collar criminals, great, we can do that, but i think much more urgent, much more important is looking at how, yeah, expansive and damaging our current penalties are in trying to make those more lenient, more forgiving, and offer a bit more grace for the many folks who a
incars rated since 2000. no recommendations by jns. he attends inpatient/outpatient sex offender treatment. since his incarceration, six misconduct reports. all minor. basically possession of contraband items. what did you have? lighter, tobacco. one time i got caught with pornography. okay. you admitted to a drinking problem. what drugs besides alcohol do you use? i ve experimented with methamphetamine, cocaine, marijuana. not a member of any gangs? no. oh, no, no, no, no. you ve taken fiber-optic classes, a copper-based cabling class, and intro to telecommunications. you ve done quite a bit. what kind of work history do you have? i know you have prior military service. what kind of other work do you have? i ve worked in the telecommunications field as a cable puller and installer. i worked in cabinet and door shops. carpentry. pretty much anything that s labor-intensive, i ve done. i know how to use heavy
interests in mind. this is a very complicated issue. and it s an issue i think, one thing that this program is bringing to bear at this very moment brianna, is that a lot of citizens across this country do not recognize or know that many of these young people are being incars rated and oftentimes not necessarily for violent crimes they re imprisoned for, but maybe for much lesser charges. being incarcerated with adults who are in their 20s 30s 40s et cetera. it is something that i think that we as a nation certainly as a criminal justice system need to step back and take a look at. it s such an important conversation. cedric thanks for being with us. chaka, thank you for being with us. monique, thanks for being here. dana thank you for starting this conversation great report in the huffington post. just ahead, donald trump unplugged. we re going to hear some of the outrageous remarks overshadowing his presidential campaign. s with passion.