other officials in albuquerque are pointing to the problematic and dangerous rhetoric on the national stage, on the national debate, they tie the alleged shooter s conduct to the toxicity of the national conversation around rigged elections. and i wonder if any national leaders have offered to help or support. it is a good question. we heard little on the national stages as it pertains to this episode here and these four shootings that took place over the course of more than a month here. and i think it goes to the heart of, you know, you guys were saying here, debbie o malley telling me that as part of the exchange in her driveway with solomon pena, that he told her that he knocked on all these doors across the community and there is no possible way he didn t receive more votes. and you have been in politics, nicolle, you know door knocking and canvassing on a political campaign is not easy work. and yet part of this civil
hi again, everyone. it s now 5:00 in new york. we are all glad and grateful today, as we said, to have avoided catastrophe in albuquerque, new mexico, and with the meticulous work of law enforcement, investigation all leading up to this today. a short time ago solomon pena, the failed republican candidate accused of hiring people to shoot at the homes of local democratic leaders, was arraigned in court. he faces a number of charges related to that effort and the state of new mexico has moved to hold him in pretrial detention. arrests like this don t just happen, it takes the law enforcement community working hand and glove and the officers who collected the first evidence, to police leadership, all the way up to the d.a. s office responsible for ultimately presenting a case to a jury. as we told you in the last hour, our next guest is making his first television appearance since this afternoon s arraignment. joining us now, new mexico
50 percentage points. he showed up at her home driveway and provided her with papers that he claimed was evidence of fraud in which he didn t actually lose his election by 50 percentage points here in albuquerque. and she said that he was unreasonable, unsettling, angry, and that is when her home was shot up in the middle of night, one month later. the next day when they found the shell casings there, she said, of course, her mind went to solomon pena, that is when she called authorities and turned them on to this individual. take a listen to part of our interview. and so when you saw these, when you and your husband found these bullet holes here, you thought what? well, i was certainly upset about it. i mean, the first thing i thought is, you know, i think of my grandkids. they could have been staying the night or something like that. and immediately i was grateful that we have this wall, which is adobe, that stopped them. well, as you can imagine, you know, i really i live in a
families are scared and that s unacceptable in a democracy. has there ever been any example of an election being wrong by 50%? i mean, this idea of fraud, a result that was off by 50%, is there any precedent for that in albuquerque, new mexico? not in albuquerque, new mexico. i would be surprised if that s happened anywhere in this country, especially in a situation like this. so no is the short answer. district attorney bregman, you, like all of the leaders we ve seen, we ve carried every press conference that has happened, and you are all exactly what i think americans want in their elected officials, protecting your community and telling the truth and sharing the facts of this case when it is possible to do so with the media. so all of our gratitude to you. thank you so much for making time for us today. thank you very much.
process here is convincing your fellow neighbors to go to the polls and vote for you. and as debbie o malley said this is a heavily democratic district. and it should it is wild that one could assume that just because you knock on doors, somehow you re going to go and win the election here. this is it is troubling and it comes down to a local level, but also very much at the national stage too. vaughn hillyard, always there for us, our eyes and ears. thank you so much for being there and spending time with us today. miles taylor, thank you for being part of these difficult conversations. we re grateful. as we mentioned the d.a. in albuquerque will be our guest at the top of the hour. up next for us, the breaking news out of ukraine on that deadly helicopter crash. there is reaction from president zelenskyy in a live report from the ground. and igor novakov will join us as well. novakov will join us as well what will you change? will you make something better?