are the children being used as pawns against could you say yes or no to that? the children are not being used as a pawn. we re trying to protect the children. how is this not specifically child abuse, these innocent children who are being separated from their parents? i want to be clear on a couple other things, the vast majority, vast majority of children who are in the care of hhs right now, 10,000 of the 12,000 were sent here alone by their parents. that s when they were separated. according to baker and glass, are behind the scenes, secretary nielsen was ready to pack her bags and resign over that policy, which she opposed. one trump immigration advisor stephen miller first began floating in 2017. bigger and glass are right, once the public began sounding the alarm, quote, suddenly, trump officials who had pushed to take away children where denying that was their intent. attorney general jeff sessions who had privately told prosecutors weeks earlier that we
talking about possible other options for the government but the ruling seemed to be very clear and categorical that rwanda isn t the best country for the uk to send migrants. best country for the uk to send miarants. ., , migrants. the ruling was categorical. migrants. the ruling was categorical. there - migrants. the ruling was categorical. there was . migrants. the ruling was - categorical. there was some suggestion it might have been more nuanced but it wasn t. there has been talk about whether the government might strengthen the agreement that it has with rwanda about rwanda s processing system but given the strength of the judgment, we don t know how the government will react. rishi sunak did make the point that crucially the supreme court, like the court of appeal and high court, has confirmed the principle of sending illegal migrants to a safe third country for processing is lawful. does that mean they will look at alternative their countries? we don t know which is
even after trump rescinded the family separation policy that summer, nielsen s relationship with the president continue to deteriorate, because the president continued to ask her to an act illegal immigration policy. as baker and glass a report, in 2018, nielsen was already part of a group of trump officials, including john kelly, jim mattis, joe dunford, betsy devos, rains inky, who are on the verge of resigning en masse all of them were worried trump was off the rails. by 2019, nielsen formed a figurative mutual suicide pact with health and human services secretary alex azar. from their new book, quote, from the minute he signed the executive order reversing course on family separations amid a national uproar, trump basically regretted it and routinely threatened to consider turning it back on. as the president privately agitated to resume the practice, azar and nielsen agreed they would not go along again informed a mutual suicide pact. if trump did turn it back on, they would both
[car[clicking of ignition]rt] uh wha woof! eeh woof! wuh [silence] [engine roars to life] [dog howls] dramatic opera music swells from radio [howling continues] neil: all right. we have got the secretary of state, the homeland security secretary both going to mexico. not even to try to mend fences but more on the immigration policy, illegal immigration policy and make it clear there s