Midterms that i want to talk to him about, something i think you can help us wrap our heads around. Lets start with the great state of louisiana. Every ten years, there is a census, right . The last census in 2020 shows the same churned and louisiana that was taking place across several southern states. Over the last decade, the white population shrink, and the Black Population grew. What people are now less than 56 of louisianas population and about a third of the population there is black. Yet, this is louisianas congressional delegation. Other states six members of congress, five are white republicans. One is a black democrat because even though louisiana is one third black, only one Congressional District has majority Black Population. Thats a State Lawmakers drew the Congressional Maps. But after every census, State Lawmakers get to draw new Congressional Maps and last year, despite those new Census Numbers showing a shrinking white population and a growing Black Population, louisianas white republican lawmakers managed to magically, once again draw five majority white districts and just one black majority districts, imagine a . Can you imagine . But during a wrench into the plants, the Federal Court blocked a new map. The federal judge said essentially, you can do that, thats illegal. This new map clearly dilutes the back foot in louisiana which is prohibited by the Voting Rights act. Louisianas white republican lawmakers have come up with a truly novel solution to this problem, they are saying, okay, if we can dilute the black vote, well just change the definition of who comes as black. And then there was simply be fewer black people, problem solved. Heres how npr explains it. For 20 years, the definition of black for Voting Purposes has, quote, included every person who identified as black in census forms, including people who check up boxes for black and any other racial or ethnic categories, which is white, asian hispanic or latino. Republican State Officials however have called for narrower definitions of blackness that do not include people who also identify with another minority. Louisiana officials have been arguing for the definition to only include people who check off either just the black box or both Black And White. It is a neat trick, as if by magic a whole bunch of black voters disappeared. The cynicism of the argument that louisianas making here is pretty breathtaking. Lets not forget that for much of americas history, a black person was defined by the one drop rule. If you had any black ancestor amounting to even one drop of blood then you are black. And the words of one louisiana historian, there is a quote, very specific purpose for using this blood math to define racially ambiguous people as black and ultimately preserve white wealth and white political power when antimiseducation and other Racial Segregation Laws helped enforce a color line. When black this meant a lack of political power, white lawmakers want to the definition of blackness to be as broad as possible. But once blackness was granted a modicum of political power, suddenly they wanted that definition to be very narrow. One federal judge in louisiana has already rejected this idea, saying that it would, quote, be paradoxical to say the, least to turn a blind eye to louisiana as long as welldocumented if expensive you have blackness in favor of a definition on the opposite end of the spectrum. Our Current Supreme Court may reach a different conclusion. Thats where louisianas lawmakers are making this case. Honestly, the high court looks poised it got whats left of the Voting Rights act. In that case, louisiana lawmakers and everywhere else would be able to carve a Congressional Districts however they wanted, they would not have to redefine blackness, because they would be allowed to ignore black voters entirely. They wouldnt even need to have that one majority black district at all. This core fight in which republicans hope to decimate black political power is playing out amid a Midterm Election campaign that is, in many ways, race and identity at its core. To begin the election season, its been full of overtly racist appeals to white voters. The Washington Post read an entire article taking off all of the racist stuff that republican candidates have done. Just in the last couple of weeks, theyve highlighted racist gop from gop senator to prevails, suggesting all crimes committed by black people, to see the airwaves blanketed with ads against democratic candidates. Another ad just depicts the words of black and brown immigrants with a deep voiced narrator, they are wrecking your schools, ruining your hospitals, and threatening your family. For real, that is an add on the air. In some cases, republicans of skipped the middleman, and just traded ads with images of their black democratic opponents but with their skin tone noticeably darkened. This is how they are closing this campaign. Crime, immigration, crime, immigration, crime, immigration. You could call it a racist dog whistle, or a code, but its not like theyre hiding it. Honestly, this is how they always close. This is how they get Republican Voters to come out. I could give you the history of republicans can accusing democrats being soft on crime using Mugshots A Black People on ads are darkening black politicians, but that would require doing a history of the last 40 years of republican ad campaigns. It must Say Something about this country, that no matter what issues are at the top of letters minds, inflation, economy, abortion, even the erosion of democracy itself. Year after year, the Election Cycle after Election Cycle, the republicans can keep going back to the same well. Joining us now is trevor noah, host of the daily show. Trevor is also the daily tenpart documentary series, The Turning Point. That first film in the series is entitled shouting down the night, and will air on msnbc this sunday at 10 pm eastern, and also the next day on peacock. We will discuss that shortly, i, welcome my friend. Thank you so much for having me. Its a pleasure. Its more exciting for, me i guarantee it, with your star studded history. I dont think thats true. You are sitting there through that long wind up, and i felt like it was really important to contextualize what is happening in this Midterm Election cycle amid the hectic, frenetic pace of campaigns. There is something at the core of a lot of the campaign that we are seeing. As somebody who really covers this, albeit from a distance, i wonder if any of this, any of the dog whistles, the racist language, or just the Otherize A Shun of people of color, whether any of that surprises you at this point . You know, when i look at the buildup towards an election, especially america at a time when people are struggling to make ends meet, when people are struggling to pay for their groceries, when people are wondering whether the next paycheck will still be enough to lift a life theyve been living, it always triggers an idea or moment in time and feeling that i have, whenever an election comes up. The same thing happened in south africa. You are able to get people to think the worst of others when they themselves are in the worst positions. We used to think that in life, you could just change people and make them better, or more inclusive. But ive come to realize that it is an unfortunate byproduct. As soon as people start thinking that they dont have somebody to point that and say, thats why you dont have it. I think well see that a lot more now. And unfortunately, if politicians do not understand that the cause is more important than the sentence, were going to be chasing the symptom forever. You can try to change peoples opinions on other peoples race, or people from other countries with immigrants. You can try to do that forever, but what weve seen time and time again, for people struggling, they are most susceptible to ideas that would otherize other human beings. Some people are struggling, but some people arent. Theyve been told they are. Maybe thats what it is. The narrative of grievance that is intoxicating. Definitely. What surprises me, and it shouldnt at this point, probably, its working. The headlines for a while, theyre talking to democrats, we are going to hold on to the senate, and potentially the house. Now you see the headlines, theres one from the Washington Journal the wall street journal, republican midterm prospects brighton in closing weeks of election. This is a moment where theyre explicitly talking about crime immigration, which i believe our vehicles to talk about the fearmongering around people. Definitely. It works. I remember talking to friends of mine, and theyre saying that i live in new york, in l. A. Im saying, im going to be there, so they said, be careful, the crime has really skyrocketed i said, where, how . How much crime . What are you talking about . They said i dont know, ive just seen some things. It really fascinates me because it made me realize, maybe ive been working in an environment so long where i have a team fact checkers, i have people who can get the numbers. Most people dont live like that. Most of the time, we watch something online, we see a video, a friend tells us something, its in a whatsapp group, i message. You dont question it. Why would you question it . Crime is going up, so it feels like going up. Anytime you see something enforcing that idea, you will believe it. The irony effect in life, in america, is that the same image can have it completely different connotation depending on how people want that image to be used. For instance, youll see people being arrested, and there will be some politicians who say, see, things are getting better, crime is getting down. Those people are being arrested. And they can use that same image to say, look how many criminals are out there. Its the same image. Its just how you tell the story, it completely changes. It feels like weve left the common narrative. I wonder when we talk about this midterm race, you talk about that race, i always go back to the georgia race. You have two black men running for a senate seat, Raphael Warnock and her show up here. I wonder what you make of the Herschel Walker candidacy, in the context of these explicitly racist calls the republicans are making. They can get behind that black man down in georgia. Do you think that that is simply because he is the republican candidate . Or is it because there is another element that is in his candidacy that makes white republicans feel good about supporting herschel . I think were moving to a place where politics is now becoming the new religion of america. Its becoming the defining factor. When people meet you, thats the first thing theyre saying. Your democrat, or your republican i remember there is a time when people didnt talk about that. Your vote is your secret. I dont talk about that, lets not talk about that at the table. We dont talk about voting. People just voted, and then they lived their lives. But now people lived to talk about how they voted, and i think what it has created is a world where that supersedes everything. Do you think thats a bad or good thing . Its terrible. Because at the same time, the Political Landscape is so divided, instead of values inherent in each party being so extraordinarily different, that it seems almost irreconcilable to ask somebody to forget that those are somebody elses values. Sometimes making Heads Or Tails of the american system have you ever tried to uncut tangle a bunch of cords in your drawer . Trying to find one charger . You think you found and that takes you this charger, that charger, thats what it feels like sometimes looking at america and what is happening in the country. You see it reflected in other parts of the world, but the american system is unique, and the conversations that happen. What youre seeing is the polarization, and it is just going to become worse because we dont live in the same world anymore. We would all meet in one place, whether it was for the news, Walter Cronkite or whoever it was, people would watch the same news and then argue about it. Even tv shows, the other day when you saw that Angela Lansbury passed away, i remember watching every single episode with my mom in south africa. That was a family thing. How many shows do we have like that . Not just the shows, but how many moments . Everybody is watching their own tv. Kids are in a different world to their parents, and so you have this and shared reality that we are all existing in. Everybody sitting on a train in the subway, nobodys reading or experiencing the same thing, other than maybe the dancers. Thats about it. What that has done is creating a Hyper Individualistic Society where we do not realize that we are not living in the same world. Theres no bridging it. When you are growing up in south africa, did you think that america had the whole racism thing figured out more than south africa did . Interesting question. I think that i had a characterized version of what america was. As watching family matters, different strokes, it was great Beverly Hills cop, all these ideas of what america was, and i dont think it is too far from what america was trying to be, funnily enough. Everyone was coming around and watching the same thing, maybe there were worlds where people aspire to, even if they could not achieve it. But what i learned when i moved to america is what makes a difference to south africa is that we are very blatant about what was happening. I always say, as crazy as it is to say out loud, i think that the one benefit to the Apartheid Governments Extreme Hubris in what they were doing, it was that you did not have to uncover it. It was explicit. We consider people of color, black people, indian people, colored people, whoever they may be, we consider them to be inferior. Thats why we treat them this way. In america all the time, and we know the history of it. But overtime, politicians realized that that was not suitable. Was not acceptable in public. They learned how to code that language, how to change it so that people didnt hear the word black, they didnt hear the world hispanic or mexican, but they thought, it they felt. Thats become more powerful, because instead of just fighting, racism, we have to prove it exists. And it also makes the racist feel better, they dont have to be explicit. I would also say that some people dont feel theyre racist. I dont even think about race. Marjorie Taylor Greene said that Martin Luther king if you are live today, would be an America First republican. I dont think she was being funny, i think she immediately believes that. Sorry, that was kari lake. Not marjorie Taylor Greene. Thank, you could show room. Were going to take a quick break, we have more to talk to trevor, including his decision to leave the daily show, and join me here is my cohost. Im kidding. I just wanted to say that. 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It is a really cool sense of community, just being in the spot, where no matter what happens, we are also going to be this together. We are going back we are coming back there are these moments in a day where the building was literally coming alive. I could feel it under my feet. That was a clip from a new documentary, shutting down midnight, which revisits the story of Texas Senator Davis and her Marathon Filibuster at the states abortion Restriction Bill in 2013. It is part of trevor noahs new docuseries, The Turning Point, set to air on this Network Sunday night at 10 pm. Joining me now again is trevor noah. Trevor, tell me about this. I think some of us remember this, but seeing it, reliving it in a way, you can viscerally feel the emotion in that moment, the excitement, the sense of possibility. How did you get involved, and more urgently, why now . Why are these this now . What is sad is that when i got involved in this project, this documentary in particular was not as pressing as it is now. When we were speaking of it, we were speaking of it on the theoretical way. We are saying, will the republicans do this . Are they going to take as chris haines was talking about, no, there will be exceptions. It is not nationwide. Here you have now a country where women all over the continent are saying, what is going to happen, from the east coast to the west coast, they are saying, what is going to happen when we have no control of our bodies . In making this documentary, what i loved about the storytelling, and each part of turning point is made by different film makers, produced by different people, because i think that each story is so unique. This story is not just about that moment when wendy davis stood up there, and basically forced all of these womens rights, and said i would stand there, even though i know we will lose. I will stand here despite that. It became about what inspired, not just in her community, but in multiple areas where people said that we need to fight for our right to control our own bodies. And how important that fight now seems, right . The docuseries, there are a number of documentaries in this series. Thus the term, docuseries. Is this what we can expect from you in the coming years, now they are leaving your post as america sweetheart, the host of the daily show . If thats your title, thank you for giving it to me. I think this is part of it i would love to do, and i have been really lucky to embark on multiple journeys, and ive had the pleasure of executive lee producing this docuseries. I worked with fantastic producer and directors, filmmakers, ive had the pleasure of Doing Standup in and around america, and the rest of the world. Ive had the pleasure of hosting the daily show for seven years. At some point, you have to figure out how you want to use your time, where you want to be, and how you want to spend your heart beats, as they call it. Theyre constantly going. A finite number. And covid, it gave everybody a moment to sit down and think. Who are you . Who are you trying to be . How are you spending your time . Who are you spending it with . Why are you spending at the way . And so i realize, i would never want to be in a position where people feel like i am not giving my all. And so i thought, i will give my all until i feel like i even have a little bit left. But let me take what i have left, and then i will try Everything Else that inspires me. Whether it be docuseries, being movies, Doing Standup, i will try it out because nothing is promised. Do you remember sitting in your apartment locked up . Do you remember that period . I wasnt doing a show from my apartment in a hoodie like you did with great panache, i might add. ,. I would assume that the hardest part of giving up the daily show is not going to have me as a guest. Thats probably number one. And then the second part is what is the thing let me actually ask you a question. You always train your eye, thats how many times ive been on the daily show. [laughs] im not saying i asked them to make, that but i asked. Trevor noah and alex wagner, i suggest that they change it to that. But you have trained your eye to work for media, and there is an inherent you have a perspective on the media that i think a lot of people do not have. I wonder how you would grade us at this stage of the game. I was talking to rachael maddow, like a predecessor in this hour. We were talking about the responsibilities as journalists here, when you have a character like donald trump. On the one hand, you have to cover some of the things that he is saying in doing, but how you do it in a way that does not give him the megaphone. Do you think that we have gotten better . What can we do better . Heres what i think happened, america has blurred the lines between entertainment for so long, that at some point, entertainment took over and became the news. If theres one thing that donald trump has always known how to do, its how to be entertaining. And so you look at the very inception, the very idea of donald trump being on the news, his campaign was reaching out to cnn, saying you need to cover. This is great, this is great fun. I think the democrats have to look at it and say, why do we encourage this . Ive spoken about this on my show. The fact that there are still democratic machines that are funding extreme republicans, basically putting them forward. I think that it is gross negligence. Just forget Everything Else youre trying to do, it is grossly negligent to say that i believe this person is going to destroy democracy. Do you know what ill do . Ill take money that people have donated to our campaigns and use it to prop them up, because i think that they will be easier to beat, but are you willing to take the risk that this person will be easier to beat . You dont remember what happened to donald trump . He turned out to be a lot harder to beat than you thought. When it comes to grading, i wouldnt grade anyone. Im not a master at this, i wouldnt even think to be a master. But i look at what people can do differently. I think the media learned a lesson, every news outlet, we thought it was a joke, we played with a joke, and now he turned it on us i dont know if the genie will ever go back into the bottle, but i think that the media can ask itself questions about why . Why do we put people on why are we trying to get from this . Is it a ratings push . If it is, just be honest. Were trying to get ratings, dont hide it, dont add icing to the cake to try to make it seem like it is what it isnt. Be more explicit like they are in south africa. Just be more explicit. This is what it is. Were doing this because its great for ratings. Then go ahead. A lot of the time, American News will masquerade, and live in this world of, this is so important. Its great for ratings, and i understand that challenge, but also acknowledging that there is a country that is watching what you are creating. Good for ratings, bad for the country. One more question. Whos going to win the world cup . I thought youre going to say the election. Let me think. I want you to come back, thats why. That is one of the hardest questions ive ever been asked. Nobodys, listening nobody is watching. I think france are the favorites. Thats so noncommittal. If i were to bet my money, i would be shocked if the french lose. But who will win the world cup . I dont know. Youre a pro. Youre a pro. Thats why you were the host. Trevor noah, my friend, lets just take the show on the road. This show . Just you and me. Im not as funny as you are, but i make it mean girl cheese. Its such a delight to have you thank you for your service to all of us on this daily show. Please come back many times in the future. Good luck with everything. Shouting down midnight airs sunday night at 10 pm eastern on msnbc, and will be available to stream the very next day on peacock. We have much more ahead this hour, it is been a no good, very bad day for donald trump and his defense team. What a ruling from a california judge means for trump, his lawyer, and the january 6th investigation. And instead of addressing the root cause of gun violence in mass shootings, The State Of Texas is doing something else. Something fairly shocking to prepare parents for a now another Horrific School shooting. Stay with us. Stay with us some days, it felt like asthma was holding me back. But asthma has taken enough. So i go triple. With trelegy. With 3 medicines in 1 inhaler,. 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Today said that for the third time this year, theres evidence that donald trump and his former attorney, john eastman, likely conspired to commit crimes. That evidence will be released to the january 6th committee, despite these attempts to assert Attorney Client privilege. Today, that federal judge said that eastman must turn over 33 of the 500 emails that he claimed privilege over. Eight of those emails point to Conspiracy To Defraud the united states, and the crime of obstruction for a purse official proceeding. Those eight documents, which allows disclosure of documents that would otherwise be protected under Attorney Client privilege. Some of the emails that the judge wants turned over have to do with the efforts to overturn the electoral count in Fulton County, georgia. Trump and his attorneys claimed the Fulton County claimed more than 10,000 dead peoples votes. When the matter moved to Federal Court, he noted in an email to other Trump Lawyers that the statistic about dead peoples votes was inaccurate. Trump and his lawyers included that inaccurate statistic in their federal filing anyways. Quote, President Trump signed the verification, swearing under oath that the numbers are true and correct, or believed to be true and correct the best of his knowledge and belief. The email shows that President Trump knew that the specific numbers of voter fraud were wrong. He continued to tout those numbers, both in court and to the public. The court finds that these emails were sufficiently related to, and in furtherance to a Conspiracy To Defraud the united states. In other words, trump knew them numbers were wrong, and he lied anyway. John eastman and donald trump are in trouble. More of those emails about potentially criminal conduct are headed to the january 6th committee, just as the january 6th Committee Plans to issue a subpoena to trump, quote, soon. The decision also had significant consequences for the Ongoing Investigation by Fulton County, georgia, District Attorney fani willis. And the Justice Department into trumps election schemes, and his involvement in january 6th. In other words, buckle up. Joining us now is neil koch, former u. S. Acting solicitor general during the obama administration, and current professor of law at georgetown university. No better tough person to talk to get all of this. Thank you for joining me tonight. Thank you for having me. And so how meaningful is this . We are now old enough to remember the number of times that donald trump has lied publicly. How meaningful is it that he is apparently lying in Federal Court . This is a really big deal, alex, you said buckle up, and i think thats exactly right. What happens tonight is not like the january 6th committee, where a bunch of democrats or something who were saying hey, i found something in the email. This is a highly respected federal judge, judge carter, and what he said is basically this. There were a whole bunch of emails that investigators have been trying to get, and donald trump and John Eastmans attorney have been blocking that very vociferously. A lot of focus on why, what are they afraid of . Today, we learned what trump and eastman were so afraid of. These emails show that john eastman made his only good legal mode ever, tell donald trump, you cant use these Voting Numbers in your vote Federal Court litigation. They are wrong. Trump said i am going to do it anyway. He did it personally anyways. He personally signed a document saying that i am certifying this as correct to the best of my knowledge on the basis of what my attorney told me, and that documents said that this is under penalty of perjury. Basically, you have in Black And White right now, a federal judge saying the donald trump lied to a Federal Court, under penalty of perjury. That straightens up the crime. What this means for the january 6th committee, its super charges their subpoena, because they now have a federal judge saying that donald trump personally committed crimes, and this is information to the january 6th committee, those emails are trying to get, it also super charges the georgia prosecution, because it turns out that trump was lying, as you said a moment ago. About the Georgia Election numbers. What can fani willis do with this information at this point . Indict him. Its really you know, at this point, if it were anyone else, that person wouldve been indicted a long time ago. The one thing the judges will tell you over and over again, is that the thing that breaks courts down is when litigants affirmatively lie to them. Zelous advocacy is one thing, people push the envelope, but when you have somebody who is actually filing documents, and saying that i believe this is true under penalty of perjury. When you have been told yourself that it is not true, that is the system breaking down, that is what prosecutors want to throw the book at somebody. And what judges do as well. And so i find it very hard, yes . Go ahead. I dont know him as well, but i find it hard to think that she could look the other way given this Black And White information. It also exposes to some degree, trumps privileged crimes are a canard, part in the french. It just seemed to be a delay tactic, and i wonder if there are aftereffects in the Special Masters case, where the Special Master in maralago documents, judge Raymond Dearie basically said, show me the beef on all of these privileged claims. Where is the there there . Do you think this adds fuel to that increasingly burning fire over the brooklyn courthouse . It does, alex. That was already on fire. His claims were to begin with. Trumps claims are being essentially mocked by judge dearie, because he is a real judge. He understands that privilege has to have some basis, whether attorneyclient, or executive privilege. And so the information today, normally you cant get information from an attorney about a client, thats like standard attorneyclient privilege. The exception is that if you are using that attorney to help commit a federal crime. Thats what this evidence today, judge carter said this was what it was about. Donald trump is committing a crime. Thats why the Attorney Client privilege is being used. One more question. Trump was finally deposed today in the Defamation Suit brought by e. Jean carroll. Is there a strategy for him at this point . Given where this seems to be going, and the fact that she is planning to sue trump in november under a new york law, adult survivors act, that gives adult survivors one window to sue, even if the statute of limitations has expired. Do you think that he has this escape hatch . Not only do i not think he has an escape hatch, i think he has no strategy at all, alex. This is really clear, we dont know what happened in the deposition today, but we do know it happened yesterday. Donald trump had one good defense to this entire jean carroll thing, which was, hey, whatever i said that she is attacking me for is defamation, i did so when i was president. And so i did it in my official capacity, you cant sue me. Yesterday, he went and Blabbed On Tv and social media, and other things about all of the defamation stuff, he is of course no longer president and so any defense that he had about this official action has been utterly destroyed. If im his attorney at this point, i dont really know what to do. Because to your client, they are just gave up the one defense that he had. It was not a terrible defense, and was judged by the standard of trump defenses, like Attorney Client privilege, executive privilege, i declassified them with my mind. The litany of other nonsense weve been hearing. Neil katyal, it bears mentioning that we didnt even talk about theres so many investigations we literally didnt have time to get to all of them in the segment. A testament to the legal peril that former President Trump finds himself in, former u. S. Acting solicitor general during the obama years, neil, thank you for your time and wisdom tonight thank you. Still to come how are republicans addressing the issue of gun violence ahead of the Midterm Elections . Activism parkland shooting survivor david hogg will join me next to talk about that, and what officials in texas are doing to prepare for a another School Shooting. 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Congresswoman that was a highlight from last nights Florida Senate debate between republican senator marco rubio and his challenger, democrat val demings. Right now, republicans across the country are attacking democrats on the issue of violent crime. But when it comes to the most horrific Violent Crimes we have witnessed in this country, mass shootings, the same republicans have offered shockingly little in the way of solutions. And what they have managed to offer is downright dystopian. After the School Shooting in uvalde, texas, the one that killed 19 children and two teachers, some of the victims bodies were so thoroughly destroyed by gunfire, that parents were asked to provide dna samples in order to identify their own children. But even after that wrenching, gruesome, profoundly tragic event, Texas Republicans refused to do anything to address the problem of gun violence. Instead, this is what the state has done. Texas is now standing parents dna kits to collect samples of their childrens dna in case those children ever need to be identified. Texas Officials Say that this new program isnt specifically about gun violence, and is intended to create a dna records, in case a child goes missing. But the parallels with uvalde have been cleared to many parents who have been outraged. As one middle School Teacher in san antonio told the Washington Post, the word missing, means a lot of different things. The Midterm Elections are less than three weeks away. Are we destined to send out more dna kits for dead children . Or can republicans be held accountable on gun safety . Joining us now is david hogg, gun safety advocate, former parkland students and march for our lives founder. David, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Thanks for having me on alex. When i heard about The State Of Texas sending dna kits to parents, i i, the profound despair that i felt and the horror that this could be their response to Something Like uvalde, i wonder i mean, does it feel like to some degree, officials are waving the white flag addressing, while we can effectively expect that children will be put in harms way, and may or may not get executed in their classrooms. Or do you think that there is some hope here . In terms of getting republicans on board for gun safety . You know you know alex, i think that the reality is, since parkland, weve passed over 170 gun laws at the state level, thats been in Many Republican states including florida. Because we know that republicans do care about one thing, as all politicians do on both sides, which is whether or not people vote for them. And the wake of parkland, people say, you know its great that you kids, you know i was 17, the survivors were under 18 years old. They went to tallahassee and said, youre kids, not gonna be up to do anything and we did because we showed prior to the election, that people were going to vote on this issue, and that they do care. So i do find some hope. But you know, alex, i gotta say, right now, its deeply heartbreaking that we, while we were able to pass the First Federal gun law this summer in 30 years, with some republican votes the solution to gun violence and specifically violent crime, by republicans, is to instead of stopping criminals from getting guns in the first place, is to make sure that you are able to identify your child successfully after theyve been decapitated by an ar15. Their solution is to get more cops in schools just like the one that failed at my high school. And the dozen plus that failed in uvalde if we are just letting our police officers, and responders, the our First Response to gun violence, we are failing. Because by the time a shooter gets on campus, by the time a 19 year old white supremacist like the shoe that my high school illegally obtains his ar15, despite making multiple threats against a high school it is far too late youve been really youve held marco rubios feet to the fire on this. Senator from florida, your state, and yet, here he is, on the debate stage, effectively saying, toeing the nra line saying, there are Second Amendment solutions to this problem. And that full stop. I mean, what did you make of that response to val demings . Who had an incredibly passionate plea. His response, effectively, nothing stops a bad guy with a gun like a good guy with a gun. Well, heres the thing, my father was a good guy with a gun. He was an fbi agent for much of his career. Many of my Family Members are in law enforcement. By enabling these people, anybody in that field will tell you the best way to stop a shooting is to stop somebody from having a gun in the first place. If they are a dangerous individual. The shooter at my high school was not he was a criminal. But he was not a mastermind. He did not have deep connections to the black market. He was able, as a 19 year old, to go out and buy an ar15 and shoot and kill my classmates, and educators, with a legally obtained and a weapon that he continue to own, despite making multiple threats. And part of the reason why that i am fighting against marco rubio, so hard on this, is that he has been in congress now for six years, and has not done one thing to make our kids safer. Thats why im working on val demings campaign, because we just the summer, got the Assault Weapons ban in this house. You know what, its not gonna get through the senate, the way that it is right now, with the filibuster, and the current majority that we have. Val demings can fight for us, and most importantly, marco rubio took over 3 million from the gun lobby. 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