from the media orjust our society, is that it s this fear of if i don t win, it doesn t matter. it s not good enough. so, i definitely did it out of fear because it s so much pressure and it s terrifying, the fear of letting people down. in football, no one cared about the mental health. like, no one care. is that true of you in your career you know, in italy, in manchester? all through my career, you need to deliver. we are like toys product. you need to perform if you re not feeling well, but you have different manager. like i had, for example, sir alex ferguson, he will spot, right now, straight away if i m not feeling well, because you got some managers, they care about their players, but the club in general did not care about the mental health. they want you if you re not good enough, they re going to buy another player. 0ne phenomenon that s more| contemporary is online abuse, and we ve heard a great deal about that, of course, after. the euro finals injuly.
he was talking publicly incessantly about the chinese virus, pinning it on them, saying things like oh, millions of foreign ballots are going to flood into the united states. he said at his nominating convention last year, he said well, if i don t win, it means the election was stolen. he laid the groundwork for all of this. anyway, i costa and i found if you talk to people, go back as you point out, look at the documents, insist on getting the documents and notes, you get a fuller picture. i don t think we want as a country to leave this trump era without knowing a lot more because that s true. there is a lot more to know.
the only way to get that full proof or the best obtainable version of it is we say is to do the work and look at the whole trump enterprise. it s extraordinary. it i mean, if you just look before the election, what he was doing. he was talking publicly about the chinese virus pinning it on them saying things like oh, millions of foreign ballots are going to flood into the united states. he said at his nominating convention last year, he said well, if i don t win, it means the election was stolen. he laid the groundwork for all of this. anyway, i costa and i found if you talk to people, go back
even sometimes the way that the pressure even from the media orjust our society is that it s this fear of, if i don t win, it doesn t matter, it s not good enough. and so, i definitely did it out of fear because it s so much pressure and it s terrifying, the fear of letting people down. so when we reflect on what simone biles did at the tokyo olympics, maybe you could talk of other sports, what naomi osaka, the brilliant tennis player, did by withdrawing from key grand slams this year on the grounds of protecting her mental health, do you think something really important and profound is changing in the way athletes are speaking up for themselves and protecting themselves? i think if i look at it from an outside point of view,
and ifelt like i would compete out of fear and i just wanted to make it seem like i was ok all the time and i didn t want to make waves. but to be clear, aly, are you saying that throughout your amazing success as one of america s greatest gymnast olympians, you were driven by fear, you were competing out of fear? yes, absolutely. because i felt like nothing besides a gold medal was enough, and i think that even sometimes the way that the pressure even from the media orjust our society is that it s this fear of, if i don t win, it doesn t matter, it s not good enough. and so, i definitely did it out of fear because it s so much pressure and it s terrifying, the fear of letting people down. so when we reflect on what simone biles did at the tokyo olympics, maybe you could talk of other sports, what naomi osaka, the brilliant tennis player, did by withdrawing from key grand slams this year