pakistan and the taliban. it s an unending war, but that s what i think of personally as i watch this unfold. i wonder on a more human visceral level, i m guessing maybe not, but i m guessing that there s some part of you that after what you went through is looking at the troop pullout and the taliban s resurgence and thinking, this is it? like, these guys kidnapped me, held me for seven months and we re walking away and they re about to get what they ve been looking for all along? what the hell? there has to be a part of you that doesn t want this to happen. you re asking the question in the right way. tens of thousands of afghans have died fighting the taliban. thousands of americans have died fighting the taliban. i was kidnapped for seven months. so there is a real sense of,
nazis march through the streets, just on a human visceral level, how could they not have some reaction to that? i ll give you just reporting on all of this, you see the line in terms of the moral line is in very different places for different people in this administration. some stay because they want to achieve x goal on policy or y goal on policy. others say they think it s better for them to be there, they re a more stabilizing force than their colleagues. others say they don t want to see someone only lasted six months in an administration after leaving a big job or coming in and they think some of them do grapple day in, day out, with whether they should stay, but there s also an interesting element of fear, a lot of them do fear the idea that if they have some kind of stand against president trump, that he will go to war with them rhetorically, on twitter, and a lot of them at this point quietly slip away. they re scared of the
fighting waste and feeding people, a win/win and today s big idea, a network of students who recover food from college dining halls to feed those in need. the students see no reason that leftover food should go to waste. it was founded in 2011 by ben simon, the food recovery network, starting at the university of maryland, college park and now reaching 21 college campuses. today, they have collectively donated 166,354 pounds of food that otherwise would have been wasted. let s bring ben simon, founder around executive director of the food recovery network, who is here with us today. boy, those are some really big numbers there. what tipped you off to this and then the idea and how you decided to move forward on it? absolutely. yeah. thanks a lot for having me. so i mean, you asked what tipped me off, i mean, it was really what ticked me off is, i mean, just seeing the food going to waste. and i think it s this natural, human visceral reaction to seeing good pizza, that s