but war itself is never glorious glorious. and we must never trumpet it as such. so part of our challenge is reconciling these two seemingly inreconcilable truths that war is sometimes necessary and war at some level is an expression of human folly. concretely, we must direct our effort to the task that president kennedy called for long ago. let us focus, he said, on a more practical, more attainable peace, based not on a sudden revolution in human nature but on a gradual evolution in human institutions. a gradual evolution of human
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impose order on the chaos, i asked him at the end, there s a quote from a book, a colleague of mine at the washington post, rick atkinson, wrote of one of the great world war ii histories day of battle. in it, rick, who is this sensational historian, who s just lived in world war ii, writes about war, and he says it corrupts everyone. that no heart is unstained in the process of war. i handed this to president obama. and he stood there and read it. and he said, i m sympathetic to this view. go read my nobel prize speech. i went home and dug it out. and there it is, obama saying that war is never glorious. and saying that this war, any war, is manifestation of human folly. larry: some wars have been world war ii was won.
impose order on the chaos, i asked him at the end, there s a quote from a book, a colleague of mine at the washington post, rick atkinson, wrote of one of the great world war ii histories day of battle. in it, rick, who is this sensational historian, who s just lived in world war ii, writes about war, and he says it corrupts everyone. that no heart is unstained in the process of war. i handed this to president obama. and he stood there and read it. and he said, i m sympathetic to this view. go read my nobel prize speech. i went home and dug it out. and there it is, obama saying that war is never glorious. and saying that this war, any war, is manifestation of human folly. larry: some wars have been world war ii was won. vietnam. korea.
that war is never glorious. and saying that this war, any war, is manifestation of human folly. larry: some wars have been world war ii was won. vietnam. korea. we probably won that. they never went south. is anybody going to win this? well, that s that s his intellectual realization, that it s so complicated and so hard and so he won t use those words. and i asked him, well, you can t lose a war on your watch as president. no president can let that happen or be perived to lose a war. and he said, well, i don t think in those terms of winning or losing. i think in terms of putting the country in a better position at the end. now, that is reasonable and sound. if you asked george bush that