all of these signs, reports and indications that donald trump s team is at least concerned about a possible indictment in the doj classified documents case. that doesn t mean they ve given up. that doesn t mean it s inevitable and we are not reporting on a future possibility. we are reporting on a current set of concerns and let me walk you through it. if indicted donald trump will be the first-ever person who served in the white house to be indicted for a federal crime. here s what s brand new and we ve never reported this before, our cameras caught trump s legal team going into doj in washington today and we got footage of them leaving. they spent roughly two hours inside and wait until you hear who they met with. i will not make you wait longer than this. this wasn t some routine catch-up. we have reporting that they sat down face to face in a very rare showdown with the man who has been leading this high-profile rest gagz of donald trump. they sat down with special counse
of will be in the milder zone. some significant snow to begin with in the mountains in the north east. on saturday there will be some sunny spells and temperatures up to about 12. warm christmas eve, back to you, i2. warm christmas eve, back to you, sophie. thanks, matt. and that s bbc news at ten. this is bbc news. we will have the headlines at the top of the hour as newsday continues straight after hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i m stephen sackur. are the machines about to take over? that basic fear seems to underpin much of the discussion about artificial intelligence, and parallel developments such as synthetic biology. the latest wave of tech advances offers us extraordinary new possibilities, but do we flawed human beings have the will and the means to contain and control them? well, my guest is mustafa suleyman, ceo of inflection ai and the author of a challenging book on al and us. is that a doomed relationship? mustafa suleyman, welcome to hardtalk. thanks for havin
mustafa suleyman, welcome to hardtalk. thanks for having me. it s a great pleasure to have you here. now, you, in your career, are wrestling with the complex relationship between us humans and increasingly intelligent machines. it seems, if i ve got it right, that you re not so much worried about the machines you re worried about us, our wisdom. is that right? it s a great way of putting it. i mean, i think the great challenge we have is one of governance. containment means that we should always be in control of the technologies that we create. and we need to make sure that they are accountable to us as a species, they work for us over many, many decades and centuries, and they always do way, way, way more good than harm. with every new type of technology we have, there are new risks risks that, at the time we experience them, feel really scary. they re new. we don t understand them. they could be completely novel in ways that could be very harmful. but that s no reason t
mustafa suleyman, welcome to hardtalk. thanks for having me. it s a great pleasure to have you here. now, you, in your career, are wrestling with the complex relationship between us humans and increasingly intelligent machines. it seems, if i ve got it right, that you re not so much worried about the machines you re worried about us, our wisdom. is that right? it s a great way of putting it. i mean, i think the great challenge we have is one of governance. containment means that we should always be in control of the technologies that we create. and we need to make sure that they are accountable to us as a species, they work for us over many, many decades and centuries, and they always do way, way, way more good than harm. with every new type of technology we have, there are new risks risks that, at the time we experience them, feel really scary. they re new. we don t understand them. they could be completely novel in ways that could be very harmful. but that s no reason t
Its a great pleasure to have you here. Now, you, in your career, are wrestling with the complex relationship between us humans and increasingly intelligent machines. It seems, if ive got it right, that youre not so much worried about the machines youre worried about us, our wisdom. Is that right . Its a great way of putting it. I mean, i think the great challenge we have is one of governance. Containment means that we should always be in control of the technologies that we create. And we need to make sure that they are accountable to us as a species, they work for us over many, many decades and centuries, and they always do way, way, way more good than harm. With every new type of technology we have, there are new risks risks that, at the time we experience them, feel really scary. Theyre new. We dont understand them. They could be completely novel in ways that could be very harmful. But thats no reason to feel powerless. These technologies are things that we create and, therefore, we