going to be doing before the conclave? well, one interesting thing they ll be doing is sunday some of them will be involved in a soccer match here in rome. that s a tradition that s been going on. in addition to that, there will be more meetings tomorrow morning of the general congregation. on sunday, the various cardinals will be attending mass, holding mass in their churches around rome. so it s going to be a busy weekend and a busy start of the week before the conclave actually begins on tuesday afternoon. wolf? ben wedeman on the scene for us. you re going to be busy over these next several days. thank you. a massive state funeral for the venezuelan president hugo ch chavez. we re live from caracas. the reverend jesse jackson in
middle east. middle east is four weeks away. this is four days away. and plus we need them as our ally in the drug trafficking war. what do you say to the venezuelans not only in the opposition but those that have fled the country who considered hugo chavez a vial dictator? well, you know, democracy is our first 15 presidents owned people. they owned slaves. there s a speech given by what i think will be the new leader, at least for a while, and having ee ex wills on time, open, free fair elections. it s growing throughout the hemisphere and we encourage it by direct contact. we re not thinking about we re losing more lives in drug
from the obama white house, what will be main your main message to them? the cement is wet. there s reformation taking place here. chavez is gone. there will be an election fairly soon. it will probably be transparent, an open election pretty soon. in the meantime, the democracy that is evolving, you also have the tremendous trade opportunities for this market. i think about the time that the amount of money that we spent in the middle east, oil, security, more oil in the hemisphere four weeks away as opposed to four days away. the drug trafficking, if you get vnz and colombia in the good orbit and mexico, you save many american life. reverend jackson, safe travels back home. thanks very much for joining us. thank you, sir. up next, an undercover tsa
leaders around cuba, a dozen other nations were at the emoti emotional state funeral for hugo chavez. we got a look at the funeral from reverend jesse jackson. he delivered a prayer at the ceremony. and the reverend jesse jackson is joining us live from caracas. he attended the memorial there in caracas. i know that you were one of the speakers. in a nutshell, what was your message? i hope president obama and mr. mcaduro will find a way to communicate early. the venezuelans are in our hemisphere. venezuela, mexico, and brazil. more oil reserves than the
trafficking than al qaeda. i just want to be precise and want to make sure that i m not hearing you correctly. are you really comparing hugo chavez to george washington, thomas jefferson, james madison? that s what i was hearing. but i want you to explain. well, democracy has evolved. my point is that our first 15 presidents owned slaves and called it democracy for 204 years. we ve come a mighty long way. the democracy in south africa is just, what, 25 years old or thereabouts. i was just there eight years ago, white people couldn t vote, couldn t vote on campuses, democracy has evolved and if we re engaged, we can help it evolve in the right direction. what about some of the others who attended? were you comfortable that