deplorables. as an insult listless develops doesn t really rate for me. it s clear to me what he meant. he s trying to say literally trump shouldn t define whether you re a loyal republican or a loyal conservative, but it seems like one of those things now that s just going to enter and this is a snake bit campaign, howie. it s hard to think of one good news cycle that desantis campaign has had in the last six months. there s some state level endorsements besides that its just been bad news story after bad break after bad news story. howie: there have been missteps , the debate about slavery and then changing campaign managers. i don t know if you re more excited about list also vessels but attack the media seems like a no-brainer seems for a republican candidate but take a sludge halperer to vivek ramaswamy who i m sure a majority of americans have never heard of. well first of all, his super pack never should have leaked
and the same kind of effectiveness so i don t know. that s the opportunity though that s out there for these other candidates. howie: there s not much question as in the primary, of course a general electoral is a different situation but martha, a majority of republicans according to the polls that we ve all seen, believe that these indictments are the result of a weaponized justice department or a partisan democratic district attorneys, and they re not interested in the details. they sort of tune it out so you think that that in some ways muscles the impact. you know, i think that s really unfortunate and i don t think it s that surprising, howie. i mean, they see situations whether it s hillary clinton and donald trump or hunter biden and connections that have been laid out by a number of witnesses to joe biden that people, that there should be more curiosity driving these issues, right? but they see one situation and handle it one way and one the other way and i think the distrust
against trump, but it goes back to the dilemma i was talking about but at thend of the day there s no way around him, you ll have to go through him, and no ones going to win the nomination tiptoeing around trump. howie: maria anybody who attacks trump makes news. in fact a lot of these candidates the only media oxygen they can get is by answering questions about trump. what do you think about trump not being on the stage and all of that, but guys have four indictments. any other campaign you can imagine wouldn t even a single indictment be fair game for the opponent? absolutely. i mean, we are living in an alternative universe, howie. i think one of the worst ways a candidate can respond to questions about donald trump is to waffle, right? either defend him, go out there and defend him, look i don t think that s a defensible position but go out there and defend him, say this is all the justice department, witch-hunt or do what chris
conventional wisdom used to be there were two tickets out of iowa. this will give the candidates an opportunity to try and get one of them. howie: marie and rich, thanks for hanging with us this sunday. after the break it s called the blind side the oscar winning film of a promising young black football player that winds up a legal mess. hit it it takes two to make a thing go right it takes two to make it outta sight one, two, get loose now it takes two to make a. stay two nights and get a $ 50 best western gift card. book now at bestwestern.com. conquer financial reports.
thing is a perfect example of this. there s extreme sensitivity around trump, these guardrails have been created so if you say listless vessels everyone freaks out but trump can say desantis was grooming teenage girls when he was a teacher, he might be gay, even worst stuff out there and no one bats an eye lash. howie: yeah, well, it is a dilemma, just one second, it is a dilemma but at the same time, if you never criticized the guy, people will say well why don t i just pick trump so the memo also says, you ll love this , a former political person, tell an anecdote about your family, show emotion, the kind of thing most candidates don t need tutoring on. yes, i mean that s been one of ron s biggest problems. he s a little weird. he s a little wooden on the campaign trail. there are these videos posted of him at the iowa state fair trying to talk to children and he doesn t know what to say to them. he s a very sort of odd retail politician, right? that s one thing donald trump is