On trump. Im howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. The debate will be hosted by bret baier and Martha Maccallum. I spoke to the anchor of the story from new york. Martha maccallum, welcome. Hi, howie, good to be with you. Howie i havent seen a build up like this for a first debate at the beginning of a campaign since that 2015 Fox Debate With Political Newcomer donald trump. I turned to the other channels i see fox debate. What are people saying . Why do you think that is . I think theres a lot of enthusiasm. I think people are much more politically engaged and probably since that 2015 debate and i think that people see this as , you know, entertainment that is very eye opening in terms of whats going on in the political world, so i think its a huge opportunity for these candidates on this stage and we see it acrosstheboard that people are just more interested in politics they are more interested in whats going on, so i think its great. Howie people didnt talk about politics or talk abou
deplorables. as an insult listless develops doesn t really rate for me. it s clear to me what he meant. he s trying to say literally trump shouldn t define whether you re a loyal republican or a loyal conservative, but it seems like one of those things now that s just going to enter and this is a snake bit campaign, howie. it s hard to think of one good news cycle that desantis campaign has had in the last six months. there s some state level endorsements besides that its just been bad news story after bad break after bad news story. howie: there have been missteps , the debate about slavery and then changing campaign managers. i don t know if you re more excited about list also vessels but attack the media seems like a no-brainer seems for a republican candidate but take a sludge halperer to vivek ramaswamy who i m sure a majority of americans have never heard of. well first of all, his super pack never should have leaked