catherine herridge questioned strzok as he walked into a room. what s the dangers here in complying? well, listen, if he does not comply you are both absolutely right he could be held in contempt of congress. there is a monetary fine attached if that happens and he could go to jail. usually contempt of congress charge could allow for one month and 12 months in jail. that s happened before. and interestingly officials in both parties have not complied with subpoenas from congress in the past. leland: what is so bad about testifying and being in contempt is better? i don t think it is better and i think usually when people like him make noise about not wanting to comply, usually over time they back down and they do comply. i think it s likely in this case. he testified for close to 11 hours last week in a closed hearing. now they re asking him to come back in an open hearing. my advice would be comply, play
it straight, tell the truth and that s what he should do. i think eventually will. leland: tell the truth seems to be a going piece of advice in washington, although questions about how often it is done. here is mr. strzok s attorney on perhaps one of the reasons they are going to make the argument they don t think he should testify. take a listen. this is not a search for truth, it is a chance for republican members of the house to praoen and posture before their most radical conspiracy-minded constituents. leland: david, this is the argument that is being set up. my guy can t get a fair hearing therefore he shouldn t show up. does that fly? i understand the argument and i don t disagree with the argument. however, he has to show up. the congress has broad powers, broad subpoena powers. this is a relevant issue and certainly those text messages is something that the house judiciary committee has to investigate. so although, of course, there
comply. why is mr. strzok different, if he is? first of all, leland, the attorney said that he couldn t show up on that date. so he wasn t sure if he was going to comply or not. not complying is not a great option here because you could be held in criminal contempt, you could have civil contempt charges brought against you as well. unless you have some sort of privilege, some sort of executive privilege, state privilege there is a big problem with not complying. i believe he should comply but they need to prepare him so he could be well prepared for his testimony. leland: conceivably, ken, it would be contempt of congress if you don t comply with a congressional subpoena. one of the sources from inside the room last week when strzok went in and answered questions said he was smug and laughed off a lot of questions about what had gone on when he was at the f.b.i.
almost 100 visits to locations along the river. helicopter rental locations, hotels, truck rental locations reminding everybody to be attuned to suspicious activity and persons and how to report that effectively early on. air and sea units will be if place and they ve met with security forces to compare notes and discuss how to better protect events like this. leland: the threat is very real. a couple days ago the f.b.i. thwarted a planned july 4th attack. any intelligence to nypd and others are looking at or is it more of a broad threat they looked at that attack and plot but this was a very specific plot, a u.s. citizen was charged monday accused of plotting to attack fourth of july celebrations in cleveland. the man met with an undercover f.b.i. agent who gave the 48-year-old a cell phone and
involuntary manslaughter agreed to plead no contest. it was back in 2016 the warehouse, which was illegally occupied, caught fire. most of the victims were attending a party on the second floor and unable to escape down a makeshift staircase. leland: the house judiciary committee subpoenaing peter strzok to testify in an open hearing next week. they questioned him last week behind closed doors. strzok expressed regret over anti-trump text messages that prompted his removal from the mueller investigation. with that we bring in our panel. ted zimmerman, david schwartz. nice to see both of you. appreciate it. his attorney last night saying that he may not comply quote, unquote, with this subpoena. david, to you, to most of us we get a subpoena, we have to