saying, you know, the more people who were in their questioning what sort of pandemics we might have, the better. i think his suggestion about having a sort of red team to do micro whatever architecture you build, its only as good as a people within the building and the decisions they make. his idea of having a red team to challenge the thinking, i think, having a red team to challenge the thinking, ithink, is having a red team to challenge the thinking, i think, is an excellent one because there is always a danger of groupthink, and perhaps that what was happening here. we were so focused, or the system was so focused, or the system was so focused on pandemic influenza because of the well risks of it, that the system had got itself into a belief that that was the most likely pandemic and that s the one we needed to prepare for. i think oliver s statement is powerful. so oliver s statement is powerful. 50 cu oliver s statement is powerful. so you don t think that he let you down?
were stored. they were not secured. and you can t say they were secured. and to your point kevin, he said, a president can declassified document any point but he wasn t president anymore and said i did not declassify this. these are war plans, i did not declassify, they are secret and then he showed them to someone. it is open and shut, violation of the espionage act. you can argue whether i should have been indictment will be very hard for him to defend himself. chris said that you were going to formally say the espionage act, and i ll tell you why. this should never have gone criminal so the argument i m hearing, some attorneys i spoke with because the argument they make is, if you want to go espionage act, we have a ton of people that will be subject to this, as a presidential records argument and they re saying that each and every shouldn t have got to this point but if there is a recording will be very difficult to overcome. the question remains, what happens if it comes to that?
to resign from itv and step down from a career that they loved. that is a lot to process. it is equally hard to see the toll it has taken on their own mental health. i think what unites us all now is a desire to heal for the health and well being of everyone. i hope that as we start this new chapter and get back to a place of warmth and magic that this show holds for all of us, we can find strength in each other. and from my heart can ijust strength in each other. and from my heart can i just say thank you for all your kind messages and thank you for being here this morning. myself, dermot, josie, alison and craig and every single person who works on the show will continue to work hard every single day to bring you the show that we love. on that note, josie. , earlier i spoke to the entertainmentjournalist and broadcaster caroline frost. she gave me her reaction to holly willoughby s statement.
the statement also says itv spoke to a number of people who worked on this morning and they were not provided with, and did not find, any evidence of a relationship beyond hearsay and rumour. itv says that a statement issued by the presenter on friday reveals that he lied to people from senior management to fellow presenters, his agents and to the media over this relationship. earlier, i spoke to pr adviser and brand expert, rhea freeman. she gave me her reaction to willoughby s statement. i think it backs up what philip said about that. he kept it a secret. i think it must have been a really difficult position for holly to be in, because what do you say? and i think her silence spoke great volumes as well. but i do think now, at least because she has said something, it can hopefully stop speculation
what freedom means to me is no fear, is what she said. and so, i think that idea of sort of no fear in terms of being able to be fearless in the things that you want to say, in the way you might want to say those things, how you may want to make your work, what subject matter you might want to sort of be in your work all of those things, for me, are the kind of raison d etre as to why i make work. so, i felt very kind of, in a way, inspired by nina simone s statement, and i felt that encapsulated the kind of spirit of the show that i wanted to make. no fear is your motto, then, as she said. your exhibition showcases your work and it shows the breadth of your subject matter, and i m thinking here about your 2010 nine screen extravaganza, called ten thousand waves, which was about the drowning