involves an elected president of the united states and people surrounding him. i err on the side of providing public information. i think it is an issue of accountability and responsibility. it s nowhere in the statute, it s juston a judgment call. are you going to try to educate the public as appropriate without besmirching people s reputations. i think that s one of the key things that we re going to be seeing in the mueller investigation. one of the things prosecutors should notil do is go hammer someone in the public domain. you either present an indictment to the grand jury, or you don t mark: do you know who agrees with you? who? mark: the lake leon jaworski who was involved in the watergate matter. when it came to writing a report, they were somewhat criticized. he said, look, i m not going to write a report that starts trashing people on insinuating things thatil i couldn t bring o
story. these were real truth-seeking people, and then there were those who were in the other camp, non-truth seekers. mark: they were heavily outnumbered, weren t they? i seemed to see i wanted to see more truth seekers than we had. and so a lot of the material that went out into the public domain was, essentially, an echo chamber from what white house spokespeople were saying, criticisms of the investigation, let s change the subject, let s attack the investigator. and one of the things that hillary, of course, was extremely effective at doing as a student of saul alinsky, go after and destroy the other side. mark: personalize it, target the person. they did it to you. do you think that s being done to the president of the unite right now? can you turn on a cable show without him being called a racist or a nazi or a stalinist
lavishly financing these operatives who were using false identification and so forth, committing crimes. it s not just skunk works in the political sense, they were doing all kinds of things, using false pretensions and so forth. and here was one of the keys that i think shows no collusion. on the very same day these russianon operatives financed in new york city a pro-trump rally and an anti-trump rally. on the very same day. they were just trying to sow seeds of discord. so to my knowledge, you re exactly right. there s no evidence of collusion. mark: this indictment, these indictments of these russians, they ll never see the inside of a u.s. courtroom, of course. they re indicted for activities that occurred when who was president of the united states? president obama. mark: president obama. these activities in the fbi took place when who was president of the united states? the department of justice, who was president of the united
or a dictator or the person who s triggered this kind of action or that kind of action? i mean, i can t. i wish there were a restoration of civility. recently, the american charter of conscience was released, and that american charter, i wish, were in every journalist s must-read package. because one of the other things it says, look, we have to disagree with one another and, hopefully, we don t have to, but we should choose to disagree with one another in a much more civil way and to be respectful of one another. but this constant calling into question motives and the name-calling and so forth has just resulted, i think, in the american people saying, you know, i really don t like this. i don t like the tone, don t like the attitude and so forth. or and i think everybody needs to just stop yelling at one another and to have a more reasoned discourse. mark mac don t forget, folks, almost every weeknight you can watch me on levin tv. love you to t join us. call 844-levin-tv, 844-levin
mark: should start, let me ask you this question. to think we have two systems of justice in this country one for republican presidents, one for democrat presidents, do you thank you make people feel we have two systems of justice in this country? i feared the american people are inclined in that especially those who have are supporters of the president and say why was not hillary call to justice but the server? what about the clinton foundation and so forth? what i say is, be patient. there are other cops on the beat who are truth seekers and honest and michael horwitz, inspector general of the justice department, is respected for everything i know, i don t know him but he calls it the way i see it. if the facts and so forth. there is still information and perhaps even actions yet to be