They threatened to sue our city when they tried to get them involved in the mural program. I think the one suggestion i might have for you is you start documenting the number of times that youre actually painting out there box and you start generating a bill along with a letter and send it to them. I think thats probably your best strategy so you can show the amount of cost that youre actually spending abating something thats theirs. And from that point then you have to have your policy makers or engage them. I mean, because thats pretty much [inaudible]. Its not unique. Trust me, its not unique. [speaker not understood]. All right, you have another one for us, another anonymous question. So, this is in regards to enforcement. Do you take juvenile gang bangers to paint over gang graffiti . Any Law Enforcement . We do. Do you . [speaker not understood]. Take the mic, walk it over. Tagging is tagging. If youre set for work release or work service, community service, [speaker not understo
What we consider the proper supervision to go out to be able to assess the environment and the young gangsters that go out on the paint crew, they respect the old veterans even if theyve gotten reformed. They dont so much respect the city work [speaker not understood]. Thats how it worked with us. Okay, anybody else up there want to comment on that . Im going to run over here because its over here. Had his hand up for a little while. If i could get you to stand up. This is a softball for dpw. I want to know where you get the funding that you give out as grant funding, lets say street smarts. Is it general fund money, is there a special fee thats tied to something that goes into a fund . Yeah, its general fund money. The department makes a decision on programs and we earmark money for various, like the police and the Arts Commission and we earmark money and send it to them. A lot of times youll find the board of supervisors members have support for various programs also. Weve gotten tha
Those boxes. They threatened to sue our city when they tried to get them involved in the mural program. I think the one suggestion i might have for you is you start documenting the number of times that youre actually painting out there box and you start generating a bill along with a letter and send it to them. I think thats probably your best strategy so you can show the amount of cost that youre actually spending abating something thats theirs. And from that point then you have to have your policy makers or engage them. I mean, because thats pretty much [inaudible]. Its not unique. Trust me, its not unique. [speaker not understood]. All right, you have another one for us, another anonymous question. So, this is in regards to enforcement. Do you take juvenile gang bangers to paint over gang graffiti . Any Law Enforcement . We do. Do you . [speaker not understood]. Take the mic, walk it over. Tagging is tagging. If youre set for work release or work service, community service, [speaker
Because that pigment on the surface was taken, but the design is still there. A good example is van ness and ellis not too far from here. And there is a corner building, beautiful onestory brick building. And you see shadow over shadow over shadow. I think its to me, its almost like the vandals are laughing at us. Larry, did you want to respond to that . Yeah. So, we photograph all the tags and the inspectors go out and look at them. If the actual tack has been removed, then the graffiti is considered removed. The fact that the ghosting stays there, it becomes a very difficult thing at what level youre going to hold the Property Owner responsible. Tag for removing the ghosting. A lot of times thats not very easy to do and, so, are you still going to hold them accountable when theyve made the effort, removed the initial tag . And they cant remove the ghost, i dont think so. As a city, i dont think that would be where i would want to be. If they showed they made the effort to remove it,
Would be where i would want to be. If they showed they made the effort to remove it, unless its extremely bad, i think theyre doing their Due Diligence to try and remove the graffiti. All right, thank you. Do you want to is that one red or is that because there was red and it was asked by the same person. It was red and then asked by the same person. You know what, i can see a bunch of hands up here. Iv see this guy back here with his hand up a couple a half hour now. If im going to be honest about it. So, were going to have him ask your question. Yeah, this is to dpw, but how do you cite your owners . Do you wait till somebody calls in a complaint or as your crews are out there cleaning up graffiti and they see graffiti on a private property, do you note that and then send them a citation, or do you just wait for the residents to complain about it . Both. All of our staff, field staff are trained to call into our radio room whenever they see graffiti on private property. We have corri