Them to ensure that the products are safe for use on all heritage buildings. And so thats how weve been able to handle our heritage buildings. I think most of my experience here in the states is it has more to do with the qualifications if its designated listed historic property, then it tends to shift over to the qualifications have to be somebody that has a certain degree and conservation or that kind of thing. So, its probably similar. Its some qualification type program. Alrighty, thank you. I have a question over here. Somebody get back here, if i could get you to stand up. Your name is frank . Yes. Ive got two questions. One for marty and one for larry. Marty, how many officers do you have dedicated to your Graffiti Program . And also larry, how many painters or staff is in your Graffiti Abatement Program . Great questions. Well, im the graffiti guy, graffiti abatement guy. [laughter] applause as far as the guys i use on my paint overs, i have a group of 3 to 4 guys and i pick th
Teaching, coaching, working with kids. Like i said in my presentation, you dont want the guy with the rack shock and smoke mirror glasses who looks like hes working on a chain gang. You want someone who can maybe not talk to them in their own vernacular, but who can see eye to eye with them, talk to them about kid things and most of all be patient. And who can document trouble and kind of see things on the horizon that might be issues coming up and who are familiar with the San Francisco landscape. You know, i dont let just any cop come and do the overtime. Very, very picky about who i get. And i get guys who are dependable and who are most of all good with kids. Larry, part 2. About 18, roughly about five crews that go out total. But they remember their main focus is public, not private. So, in short thats the answer. [inaudible]. All public property. So, light poles, signal boxes. We do mailboxes, stickers, trees. Garbage can. Trash cans, yeah. [speaker not understood]. Public. Yeah,
I dont want them babysitting me. But i never go in alone again. I carry some protection. I get a threevehicle escort. Our Police Department is all behind this. I use magnetic signs on my vehicle now and i always wear a safety vest. Never go alone. We set up five different conditions to do that so we never have a repeat. Its not worth it. Hes from hayward. Hes in hayward and im going to come over to gideon unless anybody else there has a response to this. Gideon if youd like to stand up. Id like to ask about, there are three pernicious forms of graffiti that in some ways have actually gotten worse. As the city of San Francisco has greatly improved the graffiti situation, ive noticed that theres more graffiti on concrete, on sidewalks, on curbs and also on trees, tree trunks. And tree trunks, graffiti on trees to me is the lowest form of graffiti that there is because it just it is so lacking in any consciousness about the environment and life and so forth. So, im wondering when i was in
I think most of my experience here in the states is it has more to do with the qualifications if its designated listed historic property, then it tends to shift over to the qualifications have to be somebody that has a certain degree and conservation or that kind of thing. So, its probably similar. Its some qualification type program. Alrighty, thank you. I have a question over here. Somebody get back here, if i could get you to stand up. Your name is frank . Yes. Ive got two questions. One for marty and one for larry. Marty, how many officers do you have dedicated to your Graffiti Program . And also larry, how many painters or staff is in your Graffiti Abatement Program . Great questions. Well, im the graffiti guy, graffiti abatement guy. [laughter] applause as far as the guys i use on my paint overs, i have a group of 3 to 4 guys and i pick them theyre hand picked by me. I tend to pick guys who are patient, good with kids, guys who are School Resource officers. Thats a big plus. You
Call it, what glue do i use. We have to be looking at strategies more on the prevention end. Are we using motion cameras, lighting, sprinkler systems, relandscaping, fencing. The more we do, the more successful were going to be. On the preventive end well have a quick question, hear from chuck and i know there is a gentleman over there that has had his hand up. Go ahead, chuck. We have an Award Winning Mural Program in the city of hayward, but we have one real strong block and thats dealing with at t and their control boxes. They will not allow us to touch them. Never mind the fact that volunteers have already put 20 coats on that box, okay. They do not want to put a single mural on any one of their boxes. Has anybody had success with them . Have you got any suggestionses . Because were tired of painting those boxes. They threatened to sue our city when they tried to get them involved in the Mural Program. I think the one suggestion i might have for you is you start documenting the num