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applies in a courtroom, and there is no question that if this were a courtroom, you wouldn t even bring charges against kavanaugh because there is so little evidence. this is a different thing. this is appointing somebody to the supreme court, as they have suggested, it s a job interview. so they re going to say that reasonable doubt is not the standard here. do you want to give a guy a lifetime appointment? martha: what it came down to come everybody judging the credibility of the two people out there yesterday. i think you do fall back to some legal norms in terms of the frame of reference that all of us come to making that decision by, whether or not the prison is persuasive, whether or not you think there is evidence to back up what they are saying. even though it is not a courtroom, it is in some senses, laura, those are the same norms we look to you to guide how we respond to this. last night, i did this
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you said that, not me. you ve got nothing to apologize for. when you see sotomayor and kagan, tell them that lindsey said hello, because i voted for them. i would never do to them what you ve done to this guy. this is the most unethical sham since i ve been in politics. and if you really wanted to know the truth, you sure as hell wouldn t have done what you did to this guy. kirsten? i just want to say if a woman had done that or done what we saw today with kavanaugh, people would be saying that women are too emotional to be in leadership. if judge kavanaugh was as angry in her excuse me, if it is astonishing to watch these temper tantrums, and then what we re supposed to take this seriously. but i want to get back to what you were saying what the democrats are doing. the problem with the way you
watch this. this is the most unethical sham since i ve been in politics. and if you really wanted to know the truth, you sure as hell wouldn t have done what you ve done to this guy. what the hell is he so angry about? what is going on with lindsey graham? i keep inviting him on the show to make the case. he should be angry at the people to his left and right from his own party. if he wanted to get red in the face, it should be with shame. that you should own, senator. and the people in your party who put it this point. this isn t just about the delay of the democrats. and you know it. reality of our life. facts, no. fury? yes. politics of punishment. he knows that he doesn t know a damn thing about what happened that night. certainly he didn t learn anything today. he s just saying what matters most. and that s what he wants most. the court to go his way. what was the point of it all?