get law made. so it really is a conversation about the third prong approach, the other bills we re going to pass outside of reconciliation. kasie hunt joins us on capitol hill. we ve heard the objections. we ve heard the criticisms from all sorts of republicans. it s raised the prospect of this thing going down in flames when it s put on the house floor. i guess the question, though, here is how many of these republicans, they re facing a giant bill, confronted with it for the first time. are they raising objections now and likely to come around in the end? how worried is paul ryan about getting this party into line in the next week? steve, he is worried enough that he felt like he had to go down that was pretty classic paul rya th a powerpoint preparatio presentation. giving a class on health care process. it tells you he was trying to send a message to members of his own conference and the president of the united states himself
when you goat down to it our plan is 66 pages long. half of what we actually even have there. we ll undo the massive disaster and replace it with a plan to return health care back to the patient. as the president outlined in his joint address, he expects five core principles to guide congress through this health care process. first ensure that the american people with preexisting conditions have access to coverage. second, ensure stable transition for americans currently enrolled in the exchanges. third, provide more equitable tax treatment through tax credits for people who already don t receive tax advantage health care from their employer. i know that s something that secretary price was talking about to the vast number of people who get their insurance through their employer, they are getting it tax-free. they are not taxed on that benefit, which is something that is not afforded to people who are in the individual market who either run a small business or are sole proprietiors. fo
predictions from the obama administration and members of the democratic party talking about what obamacare was going to do starting with you get to keep your doctor and keep this and keep that. okay. so what it says to me is the parties need to get out of the predictive side of the equation and hone down tont paon the pol. there are major flaws and issues still at work here. if that weren t the case obama wouldn t be delaying as much of this act adds he s delaying. if that weren t the case, republicans would not be as concerned as they are about some other aspects of it, which i still think they need to put something substantive on the table to come back with. so i think we get out of the business of prediction and really get into the business of honing down the policy. i mean i ll be the first to say it s here. you know, by 2017 if you get a republican president with a republican senate and republican congress, you re now talking close to 20 plus million people will be on this in th
okay. so what it says to me is the parties need to get out of the predictive side of the equation and hone down on the policy. there are major flaws and issues still at work here. if that weren t the case obama wouldn t be delaying as much of this act adds he s delaying. if that weren t the case, republicans would not be as concerned as they are about some other aspects of it, which i still think they need to put something substantive on the table to come back with. so i think we get out of the business of prediction and really get into the business of honing down the policy. i mean i ll be the first to say it s here. you know, by 2017 if you get a republican president with a republican senate and republican congress, you re now talking close to 20 plus million people will be on this in this system who weren t in this system before in the health care process before. how do you now deal with that? i mean, look, we can t figure out what to do with 12 million illegal immigrants, what ar
who weren t in this system before, in the health care process before. how do you now deal with that? i mean, look, we can t figure out what to do with 12 million illegal immigrants, what are you going to do with 12 million americans that are now in this new health care system, are you going to kick them out? no. so these are some realities that i think the party has to deal with in an open, honest way. it s not enough to say repeal and not even enough to say replace, it s got with something substantive to fix what is arguably a yet-to-be determined system. eric, briefly on that and the idea that michael is arguing both sides. that would be great if we had a logical, honest debate and both sides hashed it out. again, you know, media matters, we keep an yin the conservative media. there is no indication there that anyone there is willing to break out of this bubble and have a factual debate and conversation about health care, the numbers and going forward. right. and that s wel