martha: so with that yet another message today for one jeff sessions? the president started the day with this tweet really. asking why the beleaguered ag as you see in the text is not digging in to hillary clinton and her ties to russia. then on air force one later this evening, anthony scaramucci said that trump and sessions need to speak and determine what the future of the relationship is. you will hear in a moment from laura trump who is head of the trump reelection effort on mr. sessions fade in a moment as well. stick around for that. what about the question of robert mueller? the president also puts periodic doubt into whether or not he believes that the special counsel has conflicts of interest that may make a case to remove him. so is the president putting the old band back together at the white house? rudy giuliani was spotted on a flight to d.c., he has shut down some of those discussions, but
he said two separate emails saying can you please call me so i can have an excuse to get out of this meeting. that s what i mean by corroboration. the fact that he didn t remember the name of the russian ambassador until november the ninth. that is corroboration. that s what you are looking for in an investigation. a statement that is either corroborated or contradicted. in this case it s corroborated. martha: the moment that you just talked about, he called the russian embassy and said what s the name of the russian and pastor because he was trying to put together his notes. he also pointed out he had a couple of, he describes them as chance meetings along the way. but he said i was invited to have lunch at these not just talking about his interactions with russians, he s talking about all the foreign people who reached out to him when his father-in-law was elected. does that whole argument hold water? he says he didn t put any of those in the forms that got
didn t know. so then the burden falls on the government to prove that he did know. what are the facts next, ? the physical truck versus the rig. is there any way that he knew or should have known that they were back there prior to him getting out at the walmart and going into year and eight in then hearing all the screaming and he opens it up? is there a single witness that can say he knew. i told him to traffic these people over here and i would pay them for it. these are the questions that have to be answered. if you don t have that, then this is a reasonable hypothesis of innocence. martha: if he thought the truck was empty and there s 100 people in it and he s a truck driver, he is going to know whether there is something in the back of his truck. there you go. that s enough. for you. but i m not sure. i don t know enough about trucks. is that the case? would he know? i don t know. as a defense attorney and want
numbered? no, i d be very surprised. look, sessions was the first senator to endorse trump. arm of the very first meeting we went to, jeff sessions chaired it, almost no one was for trump in washington. sessions stayed with trump when he was ten points behind during the whole keeping of the conversation about and all that stuff. jeff sessions has been loyal all the way through. you can make a case he shouldn t have recused himself, the president feels that way, but when you look at jeff s overall contribution and you look at the work they re doing cooperating with homeland security on rolling up ms-13 gangs all over america, you look at what jeff is doing taking on sanctuary cities and the liberal mayors who refused to protect their citizens from criminals, there s a lot of good in jeff sessions. i think it would be a big mistake for the president to in any way do anything except move
to go out there, i want to look at the rig, i would look at the truck. is there anyway as he s driving to know that there are people back there? or not? martha: what about the responsibility of sanctuary cities, which in essence by their policies are encouraging people to come into their cities and come to these areas to find work, and there s been some discussion about them bearing burden in this case, because this is not isolated, they bear some of the burden here as well. and people are entitled to feel morally they bear responsibility, and maybe civilly they do. money, criminally, apsley not unless they played any kind of role. i m waiting to see what happens on thursday. thursday is when the government will have what they call a pretrial detention hearing. they get to put forth sufficient evidence to show he knew. right away he told investigators i didn t know. so how does he know? you are convinced he should know because as you know it s back