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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20220107 03:30:00

video last year. that clearly he did not want to make. somebody managed to convince him that he had serious legal liability and he did not have a choice, which is why in part i m guessing he cancelled today. but nobody can stop him from making those appalling written statements. i have to be honest with you, i prefer them because they don t get as much play certainly, i don t think they have as much impact on the people who still follow him, and yet it gives the rest of us an insight we really very much need into his state of mind since he still is the de facto head of the republican party. the president today kept talking about how donald trump lost. he didn t say donald trump s name, but he can t saying in effect almost talking right to him, you lost. you lost. you lost. he used that word lost multiple times and it made me think about the way the intelligence community briefs the president before talking to people like

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20220107 03:20:00

with intent. so while he was idle on the day of and that is an area of scrutiny to be sure, it s the days prior and the intent to overturn the election that to me as a reporter is almost a bigger story. robert costa and bob woodward, thank you very much for your invalue reporting in peril and thank you very much for joining us on this important night. we really appreciate it. thank you. thank you, both. coming up, judging by the insanity level of donald trump s written public statements today, it was another agonizing day for donald trump in exile in florida. donald trump s niece mary trump will join us next with her insights about what was going through what s left of the mind of donald trump today. for strength and energy. woo hoo! ensure, complete balanced nutrition with 27 vitamins and minerals.

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20220107 03:50:00

and ryan riley, senior justice reporter for huff post. neil, there was a case laid out there of sorts by mitch mcconnell. you have liz cheney tonight with the breaking news that the committee is examining the possibility of criminal conduct in what donald trump did and did not do on january 6th. exactly. so, you know, lawrence, i read a piece in the atlantic today which basically started with those two mcconnell quotes that you laid out. and i think liz cheney is absolutely right. she didn t refer to the statute by name, but it s 18 usc 1812 and it forbids a conspiracy or decision to try and obstruct an official proceeding. at this point it s very clear that there needs to be an investigation into higher ups, not just trump but the others around him like bannon and jeffrey clark and john eastman

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20220107 03:13:00

that happened on the night of january 5th, the badgering continues on january 6th in the morning and it s so revealing pence doesn t even go to the white house on january 6th. he goes works from his home then goes to the capitol, avoiding the oval office. once again, he s huddling with his lawyers, some on the phone. he said, let s get this letter out. let s go to the capitol. that doesn t make him a hero. it makes him someone who resisted trump for the first time really in an entire vice presidency. and he was being told you will shake the constitutional core of this country if you go up to that lectern on january 6th and walk away. you would have a sitting president and sitting vice president refuse to endorse the incoming president. bob woodward, we know that when donald trump was not watching tv gleefully, according to this new report, or when he wasn t just staring at it blankly, according to keith keg log, he was continuing during the attack on the capitol to try

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20220107 03:01:00

are focussing on the possibility of donald trump committing a crime on january 6th. you know, it s an interesting liz cheney s role in the january 6th commission, which itself is shakespeare, which itself is a novel, not with standing, the investigation is proving to be so aggressive isn t the right word but comprehensive and energetic. i feel like that alone is sort of restoring a lot of people s faith in what congress can do when they set their mind to it. the professional staff they hired, energy and diligence and persistence with which they are approaching this task. i don t know what the ultimate resolution of it is going to be, but all these historians and other people who i talk to tonight, people are really looking to them to get it right, to get this moment right and to get their remit correct. they are inspiring confidence in the way they re approaching this. i m sure one of the things that the staff of the committee did, one of the things they began with, was a bluepri

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